Old Factory Beta 1

This time I tried to build a nice little DM map.
As always, any helpful or positive feedback is much appreciated.

To do list

The things I will further work on:

• Some more details (newspapers on the floors, for example)
• More and dirtier textures
• Bump and gloss maps
• Shaders and/or turrets (steam for example, but only if I can keep the performance stable)
• Experimenting with external lightmaps and trying to create more distinct shadows
• Optimised hints/vis
• Secret room

Screenshots



Download

UPDATE: Get the latest version here

Licensing

This is mainly adressed at the people who are in charge.
I intend this map project to be completely and without any doubt GPL.
For the textures, I only use one "external" source of raw photographs, namely the

The Blender texture disc
http://www.tellim.com/texture_cd/
Quote: "The Blender Foundation has now decided to open up this content entirely
as public domain. We wish you a lot of fun with the collection!"

I consider this source genuine and trustworthy, but would like to know your opinion.

Really cool map. I like the style you went for on this one.

Two things I noticed while hopping around:

The skybox, I don't feel like it fits. Being a desert, I'm not sure if this was even intentional or just a place holder but for me, it's an immersion breaker.

The nex placement. I think it should be harder to get, being in the center of the floor near a spawn point, I think may result in a nex spamfest.


Otherwise looking very good

looking very good!

Very nice layout. The skybox fits the map in my eyes. It could be an old factory in the waste. Oh, and please dont add turrets

Wow, for some reason this slipped under the radar of my post readings.

Overall, it's VERY well crafted. Lots of attention to detail, and that really gives it a distinct atmosphere.

At this point, I don't have any real criticism, although I should point out that the alpha channels on some of the floor grates aren't working.

All the stuff you mentioned sounds great, I would love to see some steam

Really the MAIN thing I think that would make this map feel like a 'complete' environment is:

• please, please make it bigger. It's quite detailed right now, but really small. I would LOVE to see some more rooms, more outdoor areas.

And of course everything you mentioned in your OP.

Keep up the great work! Enough maps of this caliber, and we will soon bring Nexuiz up to par at least with the last generation of games


EDIT- There is another thing- PLEASE fix the stairs. They are utterly broken right now, you climb up them painfully slowly.

The map already have the good size for a dm map, if you make it larger people wont play it often, that was the main treasure island problem I think.
Otherwise it's already more detailed than most nexuiz map, so what you can add is only bonus. Maybe you can try to play with r_editlights to add some realtime lighting, the map is performing well for the moment.
Anyway nice work so far.

Good size for DM, yes- but DM is far less played than CTF. He should make a larger, more complex CTF version

torus wrote:EDIT- There is another thing- PLEASE fix the stairs. They are utterly broken right now, you climb up them painfully slowly.

jump up them...

I shouldn't have to. A mapper can make stairs that can be run up, as well as jumped up. It all depends on the size of the gap between the stairs. Here, I'll be Sev just made a ramp over the stairs, which is really annoying.

torus wrote:I shouldn't have to. A mapper can make stairs that can be run up, as well as jumped up. It all depends on the size of the gap between the stairs. Here, I'll be(t ?) Sev just made a ramp over the stairs, which is really annoying.

Yes, that's exactly what I did.

The reason is quite simple. Walking up normal stairs may be faster, but it is VERY bumpy, and almost impossible to bunny-hop them (try that in soylent for example). At least for "normal" players like me.
Also, putting in more steps to get it less steep would make it look very strange (I tried that already).

In addition, making the stairs non-solid and putting a simple ramp over them is part of my optimisation method.
(Have a look at the map with r_showcollisionbrushes 0.5)

The solution is simple. Don't make the stairs non-solid (unless they are misc_models, in which case use a playerclip over them), and put in intermediate player clip stairs, so the actual stair height is only half.

I'm sorry, but how it is now is completely un-noob friendly, and really annoying. If you lose momentum on these stairs, it takes far too long to start up again.

torus wrote:I shouldn't have to. A mapper can make stairs that can be run up, as well as jumped up. It all depends on the size of the gap between the stairs. Here, I'll be(t ?) Sev just made a ramp over the stairs, which is really annoying.

Far too generalized. These details you may consider errors are nothing more than tricks that require more out of the player. By changing the time dimension of a path, the mapper creates a new risk involved in a player's next move.

Slow stairs to an important object such as the mega health make reaching that goal all the more intense.

I smiled when I saw these ridiculously slow stairs because it teaches the player how to move away from the beaten path and challenge their movement skills.

I have to disagree. A stair is a stair. A slope is a slope. A gap is a gap (there you realy have to laserjump).

Btw realy nice map from the shots, too bad I don't have a single minute to test it right now (for the next two weeks).

C.Brutail wrote:I have to disagree.

With whom?