Someone said to start a new thread concerning the logo so here it is.
First of all, thanks for your criticism. I actually agree with most of you when it comes to my reiteration of the logo. It is very weak and it does not get across the feel of the game. I think that making some of those edges sharper would be a good idea.
I know that some of you like the old logo and I understand the appeal of 2d, but let me take a stab at this because I have a vision of an appealing logo. So don't brush it off just yet, rather I would like your criticism.

For those of you who haven't seen the logo, here it is.

and the old one

The origional is one badass logo, and if it changes too much ima be sorely disappointed. HOWEVER, if you need an (accurate) 3d mesh of the logo to do work on, I can email one too you that I have around somewheres that I drew. Its in .blend format, and has about 1k tris, no textures, and is about 160kb. Pm me if you want it. Its pretty much a 3d replica of the current logo.

Ive been thinking of making an animated intro for Nexuiz for a while now, and I just bought zbrush, so I might have a go at it (after I figure out how it works that is)

[edit] here we go

I really liked morphed
discombobulated logo render- that was pretty sweet.

1. Sorry, but that logo looks *cough* reeeely bad...
2. Where can I get an SVG of the nex logo anyway?

Sorry, but that logo looks *cough* reeeely bad..

which one- mine or mr. Ivan's?

are you talking about mine or torus's because I think torus's looks pretty good.

ivan's

torus wrote:I really liked morfar's discombobulated logo render- that was pretty sweet.

Which one is that? I don't recall morfar working in either 2D nor 3D. All I know is that he made a knife model for CS and replaced it

He probably means this by morphed, not morfar:

Morphed wrote:
i was bored

Redesigning a logo is usually a bad move unless you are changing the product it represents (or if the logo is totally grouse or just bad to begin with) A logo is a symbol for the product its designed for; change it and the ppl get confused and/or assume the product changed too.

However what you did is not a Redesigned logo its a variation of old one. Making it in 3 is not redesigning it and yes a 3d one could be useful indeed. I dont like the smooth rounded feel or the mild colors on that one tho; imo the best way to go with a 3d nex logo is to stick fairly close to the original.

Heres my take on a 3d nex logo (done for NotMe's menu redesign.)

Agreed. I wasnt really referring the nexuiz logo actually, which imo is cool enough. I was talking about the alientrap screen at the beginning (i should have stated that I was talking about that.)- which I think is really lacking. Its non moving, VERY simple, and the alien kinda looks like he is smiling. Maybe thats just me though.

However what you did is not a Redesigned logo its a variation of old one.

I dont like the smooth rounded feel or the mild colors on that one tho

Who are you referring to here.
My rendering of the nex logo is literally a traced, 90° extrusion of the 2d that i did so I could see it in different angles. no changes whatsoever.

As far as animated intos go, i think thats pretty important. It makes it look like the makers have are skilled at first impression if the intro is tight.

[edit] yes I meant morphed. Sorry

torus wrote:Agreed. I wasnt really referring the nexuiz logo actually, which imo is cool enough. I was talking about the alientrap screen at the beginning (i should have stated that I was talking about that.)- which I think is really lacking. Its non moving, VERY simple, and the alien kinda looks like he is smiling. Maybe thats just me though.

However what you did is not a Redesigned logo its a variation of old one.

I dont like the smooth rounded feel or the mild colors on that one tho

Who are you referring to here.
My rendering of the nex logo is literally a traced, 90° extrusion of the 2d that i did so I could see it in different angles. no changes whatsoever.

As far as animated intos go, i think thats pretty important. It makes it look like the makers have are skilled at first impression if the intro is tight.

[edit] yes I meant morphed. Sorry

Yes yer 3d is sharp edged and uncolored, so what one may i be referring too?

Perhaps i should have stated more clearly that my post is a response to the original poster; ivan.

nice
the one from tZork looks really cool [/quote]

Here's a new one. I think it would be great has a rotating loading screen. Thanks to torus for the model. I actually made another in nurbs, but maya is so complicating. I couldn't get it to convert to polys. I was about to give up till torus gave me his. So here it is.



Tell me if you like it or not. More or less cracks, more or less glow, etc...

Here's another one. I know that it needs some cleaning up on the blue part. But I am not going to bother cleaning it unless you guys like it.

I think that looks pretty good! Nice work

If I were you i would try bevelling that edge by about .10, and making the dimpled texture hit the edge more smoothly (maybe thats just your rendering).

Also, you should clean up the corners where the center extrusion turns and the mesh seems to overlap, and maybe having more concentrated dimples.

So far none of the modelling progs ive used have been able to easily convert nurbs to polys, so I generally shy away from them in favor of polys and curves. Also, since blender doesnt support n-gons as of yet, there are some pretty ugly polys on that- reduced slightly, but not much, when it is converted from curves (I dont remember which one I sent you).

Now that's what I call a nice work! I'd pick the second one, even if it still needs some work on the blue crystal parts.

I agree. The second one has better potential. Still needs to be refined, but a good start.

The second one does look pretty cool, and could go well with a revised, more sci-fi looking blue menu system. If I may offer a suggestion, I think a brushed steel texture would look better for the metal part of the logo than the current dimpling. It would make it cleaner, more aggressive, and fit better with the blue edging. However, a few gashes or scars in the metal would also look pretty kewl.

Bnonn wrote:If I may offer a suggestion, I think a brushed steel texture would look better for the metal part of the logo than the current dimpling. It would make it cleaner, more aggressive, and fit better with the blue edging. However, a few gashes or scars in the metal would also look pretty kewl.

I agree. I don't really think that current texture fits (you might not be done texturing but bringing it up anyway). And the "glow" extrusions could have more work to them. And make sure the bump's (I assume that's what you've been using here) aren't too deep as if it's going to rotate it will look bad. And yes, some beveling and make sure to have 2-3 segments. Depending how it blends in. But the bevel edge cannot be told how much but keep it rather small as Torus suggested. Depending how many edges/faces, in what direction etc. you select, it will have an impact on how much you actually can bevel. And if you work in Maya try not to go above 1. If you see no errors (which usually happen) larger than 1 than sure go ahead if it looks good.
I've done models where even 3 wasn't enough but that made it distorted which only screamed at me telling me not to bevel the way I did. So one needs to find ways around that.

Anyway, the overall model look ok, it can be made better IMO, like don't have as much specularity and if it is glow or just transparent extrusions/polys make them stand out a bit. Also be aware of the edges of those glows, I see you might want a little more detail over there (the left end of that second pic).

That's my opinion as a fellow modeler. And btw, how long have you worked with 3D? (and/or Maya, if you've worked in other apps).

Yeah, I tried beveling the edges, but they are getting really distorted. The model is a bit screwed up, zero length edges and overlapping faces, but I've cleaned it up and now I've been getting some results.

OK, I'll try out the brushed steel, I think it'll turn out pretty good.

Maya is great with particle effects, so I was going to fool around with that.

Well, I've been modeling with Maya for about 6 months, i think. I used to model in wings3d and then import it to Maya, because wings was quick. But now I've grown pretty comfortable with Maya. I've taken three 3d modeling classes already and I am feeling really confident with it now. My drawing and sculpting skills translated pretty well once you understand the program. It almost feels like there is no computer.

Yeah, the particle system and dynamics are reaaally fun to play with Many hours will fall victim if you're not careful enough
But as far as the particle thingies would work for Nexuiz I do not know. Never tried that for a game. But you just maybe meant playing with it not actually include it in the model. For show it would be great though.

Yeah, for show was what I had in mind.

tZork & Ivan's logo is nice, though the old one looks more professional.
You should work on the especially on the texture and lighting.

sup people
Just letting you know that I am still alive. I just finished my midterms and that means I have time to work on nexuiz stuff. I am beveling the edges to that logo now. It is a bit complex because I have to clean up a lot of that geometry, but it is coming along.

I actually can't wait to see the result. And I rarely get excited about stuff like this. But I also think why I am.. and that's a secret.

That would make an awesome rune

for some reason, after beveling the edges and applying bump mapping, the bump map gets really distorted. I might just skip the beveling and smooth the edges in final cut pro.

Those sawteeth look like the result a sharp edge in your bumpmap. If your bumpmap started as a picture of the nex 'n' you may want to stroke it.

Ivan wrote:for some reason, after beveling the edges and applying bump mapping, the bump map gets really distorted. I might just skip the beveling and smooth the edges in final cut pro.

Have you tried mapping the whole object? I would guess planar would do the trick, and if it still is a little distorted you could always go in there and move UV's yourself. As a rule always when you bevel objects the mapping disappears and you have to make one yourself. Using the already mapping options helps in creating it in a fast way.

I dont get why you all are trying to make the logo in 3D, Vector for example, might be a much more fitting format for a logo.

Love the one by morphed tho.