How can i convert .bsp to .map with GTK Radiant?

Impossible, unless you can live with textures being totally broken, in which case q3map2 -convert -format map will do it.

Why? Ask the author...

divVerent wrote:Impossible, unless you can live with textures being totally broken, in which case q3map2 -convert -format map will do it.

Why? Ask the author...

yeah esteel told me too to use q3map2! but i the radiant there many q3map2! which one should i use?

None of them
you should write your own command line for that.
If you can't, I'll write it tomorrow for you.

I'm still not sure about you Cortez Do you really want to convert .bsp to .map files?? Or the other way round as one normally does? .map is the 'simple' map format that is used to build the maps, .bsp is what you get after compiling the map and what you use ingame.
In irc i always had the impression you just mixed it up. But maybe i got it wrong. So are you sure you want it from .bsp to .map?

esteel wrote:I'm still not sure about you Cortez Do you really want to convert .bsp to .map files?? Or the other way round as one normally does? .map is the 'simple' map format that is used to build the maps, .bsp is what you get after compiling the map and what you use ingame.
In irc i always had the impression you just mixed it up. But maybe i got it wrong. So are you sure you want it from .bsp to .map?

Maybe i mixed it up
The question is how can i use the the.bsp docs when i unpack the maps

and dont worry i dont make something like Blue amuse

bps is used by the engine. map is used by Gtkradiant.
so it's:
1. you make the *.map in Gtkradiant
2. you compile the map with q3map2 from *.map to *.bsp
3. you play the bsp in nexuiz.

If you wanna edit a bsp, you need the "source" *.map file. *.maps are stored aside th bsp, tho the engine ignores them as it can't do anything with it.

Basicaly a bad idea.

.map is map sources .bsp is compiled maps.

If you dont have the .map ods are good someone dident want you to have it and you should leave that map alone.

For some purposes it may be usefull; however. like making some special models and converting models to brushwork.

q3map2 ver - always the latest you can stable get, regardless of what you are using it for.

from bsp to map:
q3map2 -convert -format map filename.bsp

from bsp to model:
q3map2 -convert -format ase filename.bsp

Note on convert you will loose most texturing info and ALL DETAIL and grouping info.

ok now i understand a bit

If you wanna edit a bsp, you need the "source" *.map file. *.maps are stored aside th bsp, tho the engine ignores them as it can't do anything with it.

What did you mean with "the source .map file ?

the "source" .map file is the map file that has been compiled to the .bsp.

So basically every .map file is the source for a .bsp file.

For example:
You open GtkRadiant and build a map. It is then saved as mymap.map.
Now mymap.map is the map-file or "source" of the map.
Now compile mymap.map using q3map2 and you'll get a second file called mymap.bsp.
mymap.bsp is the compiled file that is readable by the Nexuiz-engine.
Now you can play your map in Nexuiz using the mymap.bsp.

If you want to edit the map "mymap" that you play in Nexuiz then you need to get the mymap.map file, edit the mymap.map file and compile the mymap.map file which will result in a new mymap.bsp file.
TThis new mymap.bsp will then be the edited version ingame (like additional architecture or whatever you changed in the mymap.map before compiling)

Strahlemann wrote:the "source" .map file is the map file that has been ...

Exactly this is what I've ment.

cortez: so your new map will be a small map which is boring and symmetrical and who's lighting is not blue.

It's funny that people here give accolades to maps in similar likeness todmtower and then trash blueamuse and DasTower.

Maps like dmtower are very rudimentry.

The only reason you criticize my maps are because you are pro-women's rights and hate men.
You give support to people who make much more beginner maps but support your anti-men/hate men/worship women worldview.

penguin wrote:The only reason [sic] you criticize my maps are [sic] because you are pro-women's rights and hate men.
You give support to people who make much more beginner maps but support your anti-men/hate men/worship women worldview.

First off, dont mangle the English language.

Second, normal people dont "support anti-men" worldviews. People are people, regardless of gender. I respect everyone's rights and liberties- if you are male, female, or transgender. Being female doesnt make you think one way or another, and it certainly doesn't make you hate anyone. Please go away, get over your bitterness about losing a girlfriend, or whatever it was, and pull your bigot ass out of the dark ages.

I dont know why you are so persistant in coming back to this community, but you are certainly not welcome- or at least I dont want you here (being a relatively new member, I dont want to speak for anyone else, but I am sure they share my sentiments).

Well thats it. I'm too irritated by your ignorance to continue.

Ciao

Strahlemann wrote:the "source" .map file is the map file that has been compiled to the .bsp.

So basically every .map file is the source for a .bsp file.

For example:
You open GtkRadiant and build a map. It is then saved as mymap.map.
Now mymap.map is the map-file or "source" of the map.
Now compile mymap.map using q3map2 and you'll get a second file called mymap.bsp.
mymap.bsp is the compiled file that is readable by the Nexuiz-engine.
Now you can play your map in Nexuiz using the mymap.bsp.

If you want to edit the map "mymap" that you play in Nexuiz then you need to get the mymap.map file, edit the mymap.map file and compile the mymap.map file which will result in a new mymap.bsp file.
TThis new mymap.bsp will then be the edited version ingame (like additional architecture or whatever you changed in the mymap.map before compiling)

listen to this man

Whatever. The fact of the matter still stands that you and your friends give accolades to rudimentry maps and sh*tcan my maps (which are architectually superior) only because you dislike me. You make fun of my maps as if they were the worst ever made for nexuiz (dispite the fact, for instance, that many players like DasTower and will join servers that run it when it's playing dispite horrible pings). Then you give great complements to maps that haven't had 1/8th of the work put into them and aren't so great.

An example: a map which is a box with a cross in the middle is lauded as pure genious. BlueAmuse and DasTower are criticized for being either: too big and non-symetrical or To simple and boring (symetrical).

You are anti-men and pro women's rights. You can't hide behind that by saying you're pro-human. The fact stands that you are opposed to men not being divorced at will by their wives, keeping their own children, and having relations with their wives at will. You oppose all that is good for men and support all that is bad for men; ERGO: you are anti-men.

BTW: I am American and will use MY language as I see fit.

torus wrote:

penguin wrote:The only reason [sic] you criticize my maps are [sic] because you are pro-women's rights and hate men.
You give support to people who make much more beginner maps but support your anti-men/hate men/worship women worldview.

First off, dont mangle the English language.

Second, normal people dont "support anti-men" worldviews. People are people, regardless of gender. I respect everyone's rights and liberties- if you are male, female, or transgender. Being female doesnt make you think one way or another, and it certainly doesn't make you hate anyone. Please go away, get over your bitterness about losing a girlfriend, or whatever it was, and pull your bigot ass out of the dark ages.

I dont know why you are so persistant in coming back to this community, but you are certainly not welcome- or at least I dont want you here (being a relatively new member, I dont want to speak for anyone else, but I am sure they share my sentiments).

Well thats it. I'm too irritated by your ignorance to continue.

Ciao

My next map will be a circular tubespacestation ... in space. It will be simple, you should love and worship it as much as you do other very simple and ruidementary maps.

Ciao isn't english by the way. Go leave America for Italy please.

penguin wrote:An example: a map which is a box with a cross in the middle is lauded as pure genious. BlueAmuse and DasTower are criticized for being either: too big and non-symetrical or To simple and boring (symetrical).

Why so many people like eggandbacon, I don't know. It is just a big spamfest and was meant as a joke by me.

However, it is at least something visually.

Your maps all have the same big problem you seem to never want to solve - they contain pitch black areas without any lights. A camper's paradise. This is especially true in half of blueamuse - a flag carrier hiding there will NEVER be found - and in the blue flag area of dastower. You know, the game is called CAPTURE THE FLAG, not FIND THE FLAG.

The next Nexuiz release however will contain an option to light up the whole map by a small amount, so even your maps will become playable. LordHavoc is even thinking of setting a minimum light value BY DEFAULT.

You are anti-men and pro women's rights. You can't hide behind that by saying you're pro-human. The fact stands that you are opposed to men not being divorced at will by their wives, keeping their own children, and having relations with their wives at will. You oppose all that is good for men and support all that is bad for men; ERGO: you are anti-men.

In an ideal world, both men and women have the very same rights. That does not mean they will do the very same things or behave the very same way; actually, they shouldn't. But using law, even refusing them their human rights, to force them to behave like you want is neither a good thing to do nor is it going to work. Dictatorships never work out, be it in politics (I am German, I know very well what happens in dictatorships and what's bad about them) or at home. A woman isn't an object you can do whatever you want with. If you want SUCH women... well, you should know where to go, but don't forget to take money with you.

penguin wrote:You are anti-men and pro women's rights. You can't hide behind that by saying you're pro-human. The fact stands that you are opposed to men not being divorced at will by their wives, keeping their own children, and having relations with their wives at will. You oppose all that is good for men and support all that is bad for men; ERGO: you are anti-men.

Ok, stop you fucko. WHAT HAS THE RIGHTS OF HUMANS ANYTHING TO DO WITH MAPS IN A GAME!!? You are so retarded I would gladly kill you myself.

Alright, drama over Get it to your head, we are not against men's right, only YOUR rights. We like our men and women. And please, stop mentioning these matters with things that doesn't have anything to do with it.

I mean, I bet you could make a child's birthday party with his/her friends into a political discussion of the rights of men and women, and I bet the kids would join the conversation. I mean, they don't want to listen to that crap, they just want to have fun and eat cake! As do we!
We don't want to hear your views and opinions, we just want to play a great game and talk about irrelevant ( ) things in a nice community.

If you're gonna talk about your and others maps then do so, and not about political stuff.

Oh and btw, your maps ISN'T the best out there either. They do lag cause of too many brushes and way too many things being drawn at the same time (dastower). They are complicated and not very newbie friendly. People new to Nexuiz would probably leave the game when playing your maps. I've seen and played the so called "worse" people's maps which are better than yours', that is true, not saying it cause of the scumbag you are. Don't think you are a god in creating maps.

People people. Just go argue with a wall instead, you will get more sens out of it. then MikeeUSA.

I think a simple solution to get rid of this... whatever it is... would be to add a couple of questions about men/women rights to the sign-up page of this forum. This guy might be a twat, but he is a consistent twat ! I don't think he would be able to deny his beliefs just to get into the forum.

looool!

Good one.

penguin wrote:cortez: so your new map will be a small map which is boring and symmetrical and who's lighting is not blue.

Did you read the topic? I never talk about a map

It's funny that people here give accolades to maps in similar likeness todmtower and then trash blueamuse and DasTower. Maps like dmtower are very rudimentry.

Your opinion Everybody can say what he want and if some people love maps like blueamuse then its there opinion

The only reason you criticize my maps are because you are pro-women's rights and hate men.
You give support to people who make much more beginner maps but support your anti-men/hate men/worship women worldview.

1. Where did i critize your maps?
2. You should support beginner with there maps so they learn from thier mistakes and getting better in mapmaking
3. WHO talk about his way of worldview?

I was having a pretty bad night last night, I'll be honest. But then I started reading the recent posts here with good ol' Mikee. It made me feel a lot better about my life knowing that I'm not as sad as him.

That's all I have to contribute. Oh, other than that his maps suck, and we encourage new mappers because they take criticism and suggestions for improvement instead of just bragging about how great their terrible map is and somehow bringing in insane views on women's rights into the argument.

Please kill yourself.

How can i convert .bsp to .map with GTK Radiant?

use q3map2....create *.txt file, in txt file(for example):

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E:\Games\Quake3Arena\Radiant-1.4\bspc -forcesidesvisible -reach -optimize -bsp2map E:\Games\nexuiz-223\Nexuiz\data\maps\transR.bsp

(-bsp2map) this is chief key
(-reach -optimize) not chief keys

rename *.txt in *.bat and run

I HAVE A WORKING ANSWER! (for me worked perfectly)
download this converter


how does it work:
1. put your .bsp in the converterfolder
2. edit the "MagicBox.bat" from "q3map2.exe -convert -format map -map wdm1.bsp -game warsow" into "q3map2.exe -convert -format map -map <yourbsp>.bsp -game nexuiz"
3. save and run your edited .bat and you'll get your map in the konverter folder