[TSA] Psychiccyberfreak wrote:I like the old one better.

Edit: I like the old one because It's bigger. I don't feel the laser should be a pistol. It should be larger then a pistol, but without going overboard. Also, the current one has much more detail, Ivan's is good, but It's lacking some elements from the old laser that I really liked. Also, it would not make much sense to use such a small gun to do a laser jump...

well the laser doesn't hurt people too much so thats why I made it look like a pistol. And I don't know why you guys named it a laser because it shoots some type of projectile and not a concentrated "beam" of light. It looks more like a plasma gun instead of laser. But I do like the idea of making the laser an actually laser and maybe it can have a secondary fire that shoots plasma for people to jump with.

Edit: BTW who has the texture for the machine gun. I wasn't going to change the model only the texture.

I just remember this movie called 'Laser Blast' (1978) *not a very exciting gun, but something similar?



http://www.badmovies.org/movies/laserblast/

*lol, I forgot to finish my sentence, had to leave!

Ivan wrote:Edit: BTW who has the texture for the machine gun. I wasn't going to change the model only the texture.

Open data*.pk3 with a ZIP program of your choice and extract textures/uzi*
BTW: the mg and rocket launcher could use new muzzle flashes as well

Nexuiz flamethrower?



I think that in the long run, a lack of openness to new ideas and change by the community is going to seriously hinder any progress. Flamethrower instead of the crylink for the win (my shitty concept's just an idea for what one might look like).

I agree with you Torus. If Nexuiz wants to grow it has to go through some changes. It seems that everyone is saying "This seems fine, don't change it". Why be content with fine when it could be great. Come on people let's evolve.

BTW I like your flamethrower model, I think it just needs a bigger tank, the barrel needs to be thinner, and it needs some sort of handle (for both of the hands).

All true. I did that in about 25 minutes though.

KadaverJack can I find the model to the uzi in the pk3 because I need to line up the textures.

Only the zym/md3 files are in the pk3, the source can be found here: http://svn.icculus.org/nexuiz/trunk/modelsource/

I like your flamethrower torus.

Based on C.Brutail crylink sketch i have done this (with Blender in 4 h ) :
(I have no practice. I have downloaded Blender 3 day ago)


seems a dolphin

An other Blender model based on C.Brutail crylink sketch

giuseppe wrote:An other Blender model based on C.Brutail crylink sketch

I liked the concept but I think that the design needs work.

More concepts IMO.

An electro concept I made a long time ago.

http://img57.imageshack.us/my.php?image=electromr6.png

Ivan wrote:well the laser doesn't hurt people too much so thats why I made it look like a pistol. And I don't know why you guys named it a laser because it shoots some type of projectile and not a concentrated "beam" of light. It looks more like a plasma gun instead of laser. But I do like the idea of making the laser an actually laser and maybe it can have a secondary fire that shoots plasma for people to jump with.

No no! Don't change what the "laser" does! It's a really useful weapons / pogo stick the way it is now. Just change the name (I've suggested this in other threads, as some of you may remember.. ).

My suggestions for a new name for the "laser":

Momentum gun
Impulse gun
Pogo gun

All are better and more descriptive than "laser", which is plain misleading, imo.

giuseppe wrote:An other Blender model based on C.Brutail crylink sketch

Instead of focusing on how the crylink looks (not that there's anything wrong with making it look better), how about thinking about what it does. As it is now, the crylink is the gun you use only until you get something better - and then discard. It's easily the "meh"est weapon in the lineup. It's like a bookmark or something.

How about (fex) we let the crylink fire a single projectile, that on impact detonates all the cells the target is carrying. This would cause no damage to players who are only carrying bullets or rockets, while a fully loaded nex or electro would be an instant frag.

Lamoot wrote:An electro concept I made a long time ago.

http://img57.imageshack.us/my.php?image=electromr6.png

That's actually pretty cool

Clueless Newbie wrote:

giuseppe wrote:An other Blender model based on C.Brutail crylink sketch

Instead of focusing on how the crylink looks (not that there's anything wrong with making it look better), how about thinking about what it does.

Actually I agree, it's a lot easier to make concepts when you know what its function is. So I say we should focus on figuring out what it should do.

Clueless Newbie wrote:How about (fex) we let the crylink fire a single projectile, that on impact detonates all the cells the target is carrying. This would cause no damage to players who are only carrying bullets or rockets, while a fully loaded nex or electro would be an instant frag.

You sure are a creative one

Lamoot wrote:An electro concept I made a long time ago.

http://img57.imageshack.us/my.php?image=electromr6.png

I like this concept. Though if you implement this concept as the crylink instead of electro (which is actually already really good looking), things could get interesting. Also, instead of the blue bars they could have the color of the future crylink. They kinda remind me of Prey's ammo bars for the standard most gun (the one that is a sniper too). I loved that weapon.
But yeah, overall, I really like that concept. Who else?

Nexuiz needs weapons of this caliber.

is it just me or does that look like an electro?

an electro on steroids!

i really like(d) the feel of the Crylink in earlier Nexuiz versions (around 1.1) and if it really is going to be replaced, then why not with the HLAC? (i know, i'm obsessed with that gun )

as for alternative laser naming: how about "blaster" or "pulse"?

"pulse pistol" or "pulse blaster" sounds good

i think i found the perfect new name for the laser: "Sturb" (derived from "disturb" )

I'd go for "impulse gun" or "impulser".

I got this from Wikipedia

A dense plasma focus (DPF) is a plasma machine that produces, by electromagnetic acceleration and compression, short-lived plasma that is so hot and dense that it becomes a copious multi-radiation source. It was invented in the early 1960s by J.W. Mather and also independently by N.V. Filippov. The electromagnetic compression of a plasma is called a "pinch". The plasma focus is similar to the high-intensity plasma gun device (HIPGD) (or just plasma gun), which ejects plasma in the form of a plasmoid, without pinching it.

Pulsed Energy Projectile or PEP is a technology of non-lethal weaponry currently under development by the U.S. military. It involves the emission of an invisible laser pulse which, upon contact with the target, evaporates the surface and creates a small amount of exploding plasma; this results in a sound and shock wave that stuns the target as well as in electromagnetic radiation that affects nerve cells and causes a painful sensation. The technology can also be used as a lethal weapon, and indeed an early name was Pulsed Impulsive Kill Laser (PIKL).

We could call it the "DPF pistol" (that would be short for 'dense plasma focus pistol') , the "light-plasma pistol", or the "plasma driver".

Ivan wrote:Pulsed Energy Projectile or PEP is a technology of non-lethal weaponry currently under development by the U.S. military. It involves the emission of an invisible laser pulse which, upon contact with the target, evaporates the surface and creates a small amount of exploding plasma; this results in a sound and shock wave that stuns the target as well as in electromagnetic radiation that affects nerve cells and causes a painful sensation. The technology can also be used as a lethal weapon, and indeed an early name was Pulsed Impulsive Kill Laser (PIKL).

We could call it the "DPF pistol" (that would be short for 'dense plasma focus pistol') , the "light-plasma pistol", or the "plasma driver".

The problem is that that's not what the "laser" does. The "laser"- besides causing a small amount of damage - inflicts the target with a huge momentum (aka impulse), which is why the target goes flying into the air. I don't know what kind of physics would have to be involved to do something like that, but if we give the "laser" a name that just describes what it does, we don't have to worry about the how.

*ahem*

Behold the Plasma-Induced Momentum Pistol

torus wrote:Nexuiz needs weapons of this caliber.

I entirely agree. If we are not aiming at that or BETTER nexuiz will lag further and further behind commercial games.
Before anybody says that nexuiz is "just" an opensource game let me say that opensource does not mean lame.

Making 3d models like that are not difficult, just time consuming. If the work of creating it was split up among multiple artists we would have had this quality long ago. it's time we tackled content creation as a project instead of everybody doing a little bit here and there.

The workflow is simple:
1. Decide among ourselves the basic idea behind the weapon design.
2. Do multiple concept drawings until every visual detail is figured out.
3. Low polygon modeling with UV.
4. High polygon sculpt for normalmaps.
5. Texture, Specular, Bump, Normalmaps
6. Rigging.
7. Export zym and md3.
8. Make PK3 for distribution.

Very few of us have all the skills, software or time to do all of this so it can't be a 1 man job. In commercial game studios it certainly isn't.

Personally I can do an acceptable job of almost all the steps except the rigging and the zym export (6 and 7) so i still can't get any of my human or weapon models into nexuiz

P.S. prey is awesome.

giuseppe wrote:An other Blender model based on C.Brutail crylink sketch

i think C.Brutail played to much quake because that looks really like a lightning gun and with some work that could be a lightning mod( if someone does the programming part )

Imo, the weapons should look more consistent.. Currently the weapons dont look similar to eachother much, but the energy weapons do look like energy weapons

actually i like the differences in the weapon styles, it makes sense:
the different races in Nexuiz: cyborgs, mutants, various aliens, etc....

or do you think there should be one major intergalactic arms manufacturer? the Electro already has the "AT Corp" brand. i wouldnt mind nice new polished weapon models.

btw, wasnt there someone writing a Nexuiz story?