ai and Morphed: those look awesome! Very nexuizy.

I don't thing the turrets from Morphed are bad but just simple design and they have very sample textures in my opinion they look to "normal" for a game like nexuiz ...... he make a block and just bevelled the edges and made a white line on them....

if you look true doc-pytons turrets they look very nice textures whit much details.....and moving barrels witch would be very nice if they start slow and then speed up and the in this case it would fire maybe 4 bullet each turn Thad would sound and look really cool.

mfg Sgt Nova

Sgt Nova wrote:I don't thing the turrets from Morphed are bad but just simple design and they have very sample textures in my opinion they look to "normal" for a game like nexuiz ...... he make a block and just bevelled the edges and made a white line on them....

You know, in most cases simplicity is what looks the best, and in this case I have to say that Morphed turrets looks a little better. Not saying Doc's is bad though, just not fitting the style of Nexuiz.

As a 3D artist I've seen lots of work and I can tell that 8 out of 10 cases, the people who created simple things gets the best results (unless they are professionals with monster equipment to create detailed and awesome stuff).

ai wrote:I don't thing the turrets from Morphed are As a 3D artist I've seen lots of work and I can tell that 8 out of 10 cases, the people who created simple things gets the best results (unless they are professionals with monster equipment to create detailed and awesome stuff).

qft.

torus wrote:

ai wrote:I don't thing the turrets from Morphed are As a 3D artist I've seen lots of work and I can tell that 8 out of 10 cases, the people who created simple things gets the best results (unless they are professionals with monster equipment to create detailed and awesome stuff).

qft.

Two things:
1. You combined Novas quote with mine, which confused me a bit as I see a spelling error there, and I'm very careful I spell right (And it doesn't make sense that way)

2. What does 'qft' mean?

I like the idea of being able to deploy automated turrets in deathmatch games. If they look cool, and it's fun to blow them up, they'd be great. I think they'd only really be worthwhile if they were really powerful though. If they were wussy like the Half-Life sentries it would be too easy, but if they were so powerful they could literally affect the routes your opponents started to take... well that could really make the gameplay interesting.

Ok I have an idea you ask how to make a turret "think" so Thad the turret which is next to the target starts to fire...

My idea is if a target is in rage of the turret start a tracer and then you got the end vector and then you can calculate which turret is next to the target and then let’s start this turret to fire

Sgt Nova wrote:Ok I have an idea you ask how to make a turret "think" so Thad the turret which is next to the target starts to fire...

My idea is if a target is in rage of the turret start a tracer and then you got the end vector and then you can calculate which turret is next to the target and then let’s start this turret to fire

all thats allready done. target selection, prediction, tracking and so on. http://zdev.dvrdns.org/nexuiz/tturrets/docs/

and where is your problem?

Sgt Nova wrote:and where is your problem?

What makes you think there is a problem? o_O

i had in mind thad you asked doc....thad the turrtes work but you wont to make tham "smart" so thad the turrt which is next to the target fiers

Err im not sure i understand what you are saying... read the thread again, from the top, for the full picture. to reacap real fast, the thing i did ask for help with was i media; models and texture and possibly sounds.

hummm then sry^^

i had the idea of a very simple "trash can" turret:

That's cool, maybe you could have a multitude of skins to choose from, so that you could kind of camouflage them amongst a similarly coloured background. Maybe you could have it so that those things bury themselves into the ground, and become practically invisible. Then when loads of players come along, you press a remote control, and they pop up, and fire shotgun shots in every direction, killing everyone.

I think something else that would be cool would be something that looks like the tripod ones in Half-Life, so you could fold them up and carry loads of them with you.

With something like that, a player could deploy them, with a laser sight that projects out to infinity, so that if you're fighting against them, you can see the laser sights looking where they're going to shoot before they shoot you. You could set them up with a little "scan" radius, so they aim in a certain direction, and then rotate back and forth a set number of degrees.

It'd be like the sniper sections in Half-Life 2. And again, make them really powerful, so that you can't just walk up to them, you have to avoid their line of sight.

Could make for some interesting 1 on 1 games- who can deploy the turrets in the best positions.

Regarding firepower:
Power of each unit differs by individual settings. the most basic one, the plasma turret, are with current defaults a preddy big problem for a unsuspecting player. The more advanced/powerful ones, sutch as the HK or minigun turrets, gennerally need to be taken down to get passed (this can be trixy too since some turrets will destroy incomming rockets) em. Again each unit has a set of cvars controling them, so tuning the power is straight forward.

Deploy/carry/HIde:
proly not gonna happen, at least not anytime soon. nexuiz maps are to small for that. And it would be a weaponsystem to advanced for nexuiz gameplay, it it could be deplayed i think. They may show up in deployable form in a ressurection of Team:Nexuiz *hint*

How's about a game mode that is based solely around turrets? You could have say, 20 to deploy, and you have to run a certain distance around the map every so often, so that if you don't you die. That way, the game would be about trapping the other player in a section of the map with the turrets.

Turrets would be crappy in normal Nexuiz (see tzork's arguments).
Team:Nexuiz sounds fine Engineer-class in other Team Fortress games is about deploying Turrets.

A few weak turrets would be cool in CTF maps. Especially those designed for a few players.

morfar wrote:Turrents would be crappy in normal Nexuiz (see tzork's arguments).
Team:Nexuiz sounds fine Engineer-class in other Team Fortress games is about deploying Turrents.

I think you mix together the words 'turrets' and 'torrents'

ai wrote:I think you mix together the words 'turrets' and 'torrents'

Edited my post. What a useless post, shame on you.

morfar wrote:

ai wrote:I think you mix together the words 'turrets' and 'torrents'

Edited my post. What a useless post, shame on you.

That's what I'm here for.

Why must the turrets be weak? I was thinking about having a game mainly based around them. If they fired in a really cool way, it would be okay for 1 on 1 games. There could be something like each player's health is decreasing continuously, so you have to move around the map. The objective of putting more and more turrets down is to stop the other player moving around, box them in, so that eventually, they run out of health and blow up!

so, what happend to those turrets?

Lack of time, but im still working on it.

cool
I hope there will be a game mode that is like:

all the players vs many turrets on a long way.

Because, i played nexuiz with friends on a lan , and deathmatch was fun. But cooperative playing is what makes lans even funnier. And with turrets this could be done easely.

Heres where its at now.



Energy based turrets


Plasma & Doubbe Plasma Cannon (doubble fire rate): Medium speed splashy damage. Basic allarounder turret.


Gauss Cannon: Slow tuning high damage long refire sniper turret.


Tesla coil: Hits anything hostile within rage each 'shot' (including missiles) Deals mroe damage the closer you are.


Fusion Reactor: Place close to ebergy based turrets to help them recharge faster (=shoot more).

Rockets

MLRS: Basic multibay rocketlauncher.
Hellion: Same as MLRS + guided rockets.


Hunter-Killer: Fiers a single powerfull rocet that will chase its target and avoid hitting obstacles.


Point-Defense: Shoots down hostile missiles.

Other

Minigun: Double minigun, slow turning but dealy mid to close range turret.

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All turrets can be put into a player team (for ctf and sutch).
Turrets can die. They respawn after some time.
Each turret has a separate .cfg file for easy tweaking.

I just can't find the words...
I really hope this thing gets in 2.4 along with Ons :thumbsup:

I think it would be really cool if these were what other games called 'deployables'. I don't know how much engine hacking that would require though...

I'm going to have so much fun mapping with these.