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Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:02 pm

  • blasted lands are blasted
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Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:38 pm

  • looks good
    some lights shine way too much though
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Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:52 pm

  • Not so clueless newbie.
    Really nice work, the most 'outdoors' i ever felt on a nex map. Damnit , this is the type of map i bin wanting to make for ages. I really nice demonstration of what could be in nexuiz. Nice solution to the edge of map problem.
    I kept hoping to see a doorway or cave to go potholing in.
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Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:00 pm

  • Newbie!
    No .map in blasted lands >.<
    Share the love duuuuude :(
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    saw this and thought of you:
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  • Ronan wrote:
    Hehe I wanted to improve my electro spawn fragging (can be useful in the eggandbacon enemy base) nice.
    However, the vis could probably be improved with capturecity-like hint brush. But let see if people complain about performance first.

    Hm.. There are hardly any "real" brushes in this map - just the bounding box and a few brief wall sections. Everything else are bevels and caps. I was under the impression that hints and prolonged VIS compiles wouldn't make much difference. But then I'm still not sure I understand the hint textures, despite everything...

    If people do complain then I'll need some tips on how to do this.
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Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:09 pm

  • Rad Ished wrote:Newbie!
    No .map in blasted lands >.<
    Share the love duuuuude :(

    I didn't include one because I thought people didn't care. But I've uploaded Blastedlands again - and this time it has a .map file. Same link as in the OP. Have fun. B)

    PS: The VIS compile for this map took over a week - and yes, it was worth it.
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Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:48 pm

  • A WEEK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    OMFG
    erm there has to be something wrong there.
    Another thing did you use divverents q3map2 patch?
    And if so, how.
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Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:53 pm

  • Rad Ished wrote:A WEEK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    OMFG
    erm there has to be something wrong there.
    Another thing did you use divverents q3map2 patch?
    And if so, how.

    I was under the impression that divverents patch dealt with holes in the maps, not compile times.

    As for needing a week to compile - this is, afaik, typical of space levels unless you use the FAST switch. And Blastedlands is in many respects a space level.
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Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:00 pm

  • Divs patch deals with holes in models, such as .ase and .md3 which i assumed you'd used in this map. My map Ito took six hours or so to compile, and if that isn't a space map :shock:
    Who told you a week is normal?
    Is this true?
    Ima not going to live that long!!!
    Were you playing NEx the whole time on max settings? |>) <cylon
    I go look at the .map now, thanaks four zaht

    Ahh i see, a lot off overlapping things going on there, specifically I've been told that any overlapping involving caulk the best way to compile for a really really long time.
    Here's the map i made that is very similar, it's no great shakes just an experiment, i made the .ase in blender (how i love/hate that app).
    It has holes in it which I'm trying to get sorted before i give it a proper go.
    http://www.mediafire.com/?2ymkojmzezn
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Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:23 pm

  • A week is ridiculous. You must have all of your terrain structural. Try making it all detail, and then placing structural caulk blocks underneath it to block vis.
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Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:54 pm

  • I just played blastedlands for a bit, ctf , I really like this map. Instant classic newb.
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Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:46 pm

  • Since the terrain is a patch mesh, you should have entirely forwent the Visibility phase, as patches [1] do not block vis, [2] can add hundreds of unnecessary vis clusters if compiled solid with -patchmeta, [3] are buggy above 512 qu, [4] do not cast shadows

    As a result, performance is horrid, compile times are extremely long because of the fact that visibility is virtually level-wide, lighting is not sharp, et cetera.

    To alleviate some of the problems, specifically vis, caulk-hull the map [hiding a simplified version of the map as caulk brushes inside the patch mesh terrain, however do not overlap caulk brushes! As doing so will actually lengthen the compilation phase].

    To fix the root cause for your next attempt, use a height map generation program ->
    Easygen for smoothing -> GTKGensurf for auto-hinting and possibly grid decimation -> GTKRadiant for adding interiors and such.

    Div0's patch deals with rotation of objects in GTKRadiant, [the patch] rotates based on a vertex, while GTKRadiant rotates based on origin.
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Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:54 pm

  • Divo has made three different patches, this sounds like it might be a different one.
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Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:17 pm

  • Rad Ished wrote:Were you playing NEx the whole time on max settings? |>) <cylon
    Yeah. My mac has four cores, so VIS could compile on one core while the other three were available for other things. Only problem was that VIS kept hogging the HD, so everything involving the HD got bogged down. Next time I do something like this, I'll try moving everything - map and compiler to the other HD and see if that helps.

    Ahh i see, a lot off overlapping things going on there, specifically I've been told that any overlapping involving caulk the best way to compile for a really really long time.

    Overlapping? Where? I took care to make sure there wouldn't be any overlapping at all - other than of the meshes... hmm...

    Here's the map i made that is very similar, it's no great shakes just an experiment, i made the .ase in blender (how i love/hate that app).
    It has holes in it which I'm trying to get sorted before i give it a proper go.
    http://www.mediafire.com/?2ymkojmzezn

    I'll take a look at it later.
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Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:18 pm

  • Revenant wrote:A week is ridiculous. You must have all of your terrain structural. Try making it all detail, and then placing structural caulk blocks underneath it to block vis.

    I thought about doing that, but then I decided I needed all the view blocking I could get. I'll give it a shot next time I make a map like this though.
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Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:30 pm

  • TVR wrote:Since the terrain is a patch mesh, you should have entirely forwent the Visibility phase, as patches [1] do not block vis, [2] can add hundreds of unnecessary vis clusters if compiled solid with -patchmeta, [3] are buggy above 512 qu, [4] do not cast shadows
    Are you talking about skipping the VIS phase?

    As a result, performance is horrid, compile times are extremely long because of the fact that visibility is virtually level-wide, lighting is not sharp, et cetera.
    Well, I'm kinda happy with the way the map turned out. Could do without the long compile time though.

    To alleviate some of the problems, specifically vis, caulk-hull the map [hiding a simplified version of the map as caulk brushes inside the patch mesh terrain, however do not overlap caulk brushes! As doing so will actually lengthen the compilation phase].
    I did a cheap-o version of the caulk-hull in Blasted. If you look beneath the meshes, you'll see blocks of caulk beneath all the boulders. They blocked the view and helped increase the fps for players in the valleys.

    To fix the root cause for your next attempt, use a height map generation program ->
    Easygen for smoothing -> GTKGensurf for auto-hinting and possibly grid decimation -> GTKRadiant for adding interiors and such.
    You mean tri-soups and such?

    Div0's patch deals with rotation of objects in GTKRadiant, [the patch] rotates based on a vertex, while GTKRadiant rotates based on origin.
    (eyes glaze over) Huh?
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Sat Jan 05, 2008 9:31 pm

  • Blasted lands is pretty neat :D Good place for soma really mindless deathmatch action :twisted:
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