It's the first time I've rigged a model to the pyria armature, here's the .blend:

http://www.haosredro.com/nex/model-karo ... nes2.blend

Taiyo.uk wrote:It's the first time I've rigged a model to the pyria armature, here's the .blend:

http://www.haosredro.com/nex/model-karo ... nes2.blend

The offending bones are super heavily rotated in pose mode; go to pose mode, select each of those arm bones and set all its rotation values to zero. Then the mesh looks fine in its rest pose.

Also though, the bones are not placed inside the mesh; you need to place them so that the joints in the skeleton sit where the creature's real life joints would be, or else you get extremely unnatural results when you rotate bones to create the animations.

Thanks Steel!

It would appear that the oddness was due to the Pyria skeleton not matching the rest pose. I didn't change the rotation values of each bone directly, but I have modified the skeleton to match the rest pose of the model:
http://www.haosredro.com/nex/img/editbones2.png
http://www.haosredro.com/nex/img/objectbones2.png

Now, it did export, and the animations do work, but there appears to be some geometry scaling issues that can only be described as "OMFGWTFSTICKMANHAX?!?!" The model has been turned into a stickman:
http://www.haosredro.com/nex/img/wtfstickman1.jpg
I can see his little head if I zoom in, but everything else has been "sticked":
http://www.haosredro.com/nex/img/wtfstickman2.jpg

Has anyone else had this problem?

Edit:

Here's the .blend file:
http://www.haosredro.com/nex/model-karo ... nes3.blend

Edit:

Problem was the HL2 exporter, used the nexuiz one from the vixen model sources. Needed to add a magic comment at the second line to avoid a non-ascii character syntax error ( # -*- coding: utf-8 -*- ) Essentially works now, but the model is horribly distorted in places:
http://www.haosredro.com/nex/model-karo ... 000044.jpg
The arms and legs appear to be sucked into the body somewhat, the head points the wrong way and there's weird stretches everywhere.

Weird. If I were in your shoes (and will be eventually), what I'd do next is try to isolate the problem, by taking pyra (or whatever her name is) herself, with her skeleton and model siting in blender after you imported her (you already imported her skeleton for the trogdor guy model, so it's established that the import works) and export her the same as you did for your model using the same script and everything. See if you get the same problem with this model in Nexuiz.

If so, then it's definitely something obviously wrong with this script. If it's div's script, he'll probably want to look into this problem when he gets the time. I believe he wanted feedback help with this from an artist, and now one of us (you to be exact ) has finally gotten to it.

If it's Div0's Blender script then there's nothing wrong with that. It has already been tested a bit by Morphed and it worked fine.

ai wrote:If it's Div0's Blender script then there's nothing wrong with that. It has already been tested a bit by Morphed and it worked fine.

Never underestimate the dark will of a content pipeline to destroy without reason.

It could be that by doing anything just a little differently with the content creation or export process from whatever Morphed did with his character model(s), Taiyo has uncovered a bug of some sort which is causing this probably undocumented issue.

So in my experience, the best way to find the cause of an unknown problem (without knowledge of the code) is to apply KISS and run tests that introduce new variables in baby steps. The first of these is to export from the content creation suite using the same export script the problem is occuring with, a rigged model that we already know works in-game, imo.

I'll have a go building a known working model when I get a chance. Failing that I'll try using the carni skeleton as this seems to fit the model somewhat better.

Cool, I'd be curious to see what results you get.

Taiyo.uk wrote:Now, it did export, and the animations do work, but there appears to be some geometry scaling issues that can only be described as "OMFGWTFSTICKMANHAX?!?!" The model has been turned into a stickman:
http://www.haosredro.com/nex/img/wtfstickman1.jpg
I can see his little head if I zoom in, but everything else has been "sticked":
http://www.haosredro.com/nex/img/wtfstickman2.jpg

Has anyone else had this problem?

This is because you scaled down the model. The SMD script doesn't handle tranformation of the armature properly. The best thing to do is LEAVE THE ARMATURE IN PLACE AND SCALE ONCE IMPORTED.

Naw, that problem was due to th HL2 exporter. It would do this with known working models too. This particular issue was solved when I used Div0's export script. The problem I'm having now is strange deformation of the model as detailed in my previous posts.

can anyone advice an smd exporter for maya 2009 that fits to nexiuz ?
and a question: can exporter actually export animation when bones are controlled trough something else (for example I use locator with point modificator to orient bone and so on..)

@Sinister:
Here's a link to a guide I wrote: http://forums.alientrap.local/viewtopic.php?t=3813
I am working on even some video tutorials explaining exactly this. In there are ways described for smd exporters.
As for your question about locators. Yes, the smd can export the animations no matter how you control the bones. All it wants and cares about are the actual animations, not how it is controlled. You just have to select the skeleton when exporting unless you 'export all' so to speak. I never use that and only use 'export selection', I like to be clean in my doings.

Cheers.

thanks ai
I was little afraid because in this topic were a lot of

that problem was due to th HL2 exporter

and so on

i have a quick question.

what is the difference between md2 and md3? because blender can export in md2 format. I am wondering if you could do anything with that.

-yoda

If I remember correctly, md3 has same features of md2(no skeleton exported but keyframes of actions:run,walk,and so on) plus tags. So there's a tag TORSO which permits player to roll body during animation while is running, walking.. I think there are three types of tag, head - torso - legs. But, about this, I'm not sure. Probably other users can give you more detailed suggestions. But, let me know, why use md3, when Nexuiz uses dpm or zym for animated objets and ASE for static objects?

Does anyone know how a weapon binding point could be defined in a model? Is it a bone with special name or just a fixed position?

z80 wrote:Does anyone know how a weapon binding point could be defined in a model? Is it a bone with special name or just a fixed position?

its bone named "Bip01 R Hand"