1. What can import/export MDLs?
2. What do you use to edit MDLs?

Well, Blender (http://www.blender3d.org) can export to md2 (bleh) and md3( ) The md3 export is through a script which I have sitting around here somewhere... Anyhow, if you can get your hands on 3dsmax or maya you might be able to get zym support going. You have to go through Half Life SMDs to get the zym format though.

The mdl and md2 formats are so old you shouldn't use them. MDL is integer based which makes it blocky and md2 smells bad

So you can't model for Nexuiz with free software?

Anyone?

Blender is open source.

Plus it has a large community to help you out.

mehere101 wrote:Blender is open source.

Plus it has a large community to help you out.

1. I wasn't asking if it was open source.
2. Blender can't import MDLs or ZYMs.

a thing wrote:2. Blender can't import MDLs or ZYMs.

There is no 3D modeller that can import ZYM. You gotta search for a HalfLife SMD importer/exporter and compile the ZYM model using LordHavoc's zmodel compiler.

Unfortunately this seems to be the only working SMD exporter atm (at least i haven't found more than that whithin 5 minutes) and it's still in alpha stage and doesn't support animations.

Blender can get models into Nexuiz in md3 format, just not zym.

AFAIK ZYm cannot be exported or read directly by any 3D package

Ah, I thought since it was for HL it'd be nonfree.

But still, where are the .BLENDs or whatever the modlers use to edit?

a thing wrote:But still, where are the .BLENDs or whatever the modlers use to edit?

Vermeulen released all player/wepon models/animations some time ago. They are all in 3DS/SMD format iirc. You can get them here:
http://www.edgefiles.com/files/21033.html
http://www.edgefiles.com/files/20817.html
http://www.edgefiles.com/files/20705.html

KadaverJack wrote:

a thing wrote:But still, where are the .BLENDs or whatever the modlers use to edit?

Vermeulen released all player/wepon models/animations some time ago. They are all in 3DS/SMD format iirc. You can get them here:
http://www.edgefiles.com/files/21033.html
http://www.edgefiles.com/files/20817.html
http://www.edgefiles.com/files/20705.html

Why aren't those included in the source archives?

I took the liberty of putting the model source files onto sourceforge.

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfile ... _id=192474

1. Where's zmodel's source?
2. What made the SMDs? If it was that Blender script, where's the .BLENDs?

a thing wrote:1. Where's zmodel's source?

You can get it from darkplaces cvs repostiory:

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cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.icculus.org:/cvs/cvsroot/twilight login
(enter anonymous as password)
cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.icculus.org:/cvs/cvsroot/twilight checkout zmodel

2. What made the SMDs? If it was that Blender script, where's the .BLENDs?

I don't think the models were made with Blender.

KadaverJack wrote:

a thing wrote:1. Where's zmodel's source?

You can get it from darkplaces cvs repostiory:

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cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.icculus.org:/cvs/cvsroot/twilight login
(enter anonymous as password)
cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.icculus.org:/cvs/cvsroot/twilight checkout zmodel

2. What made the SMDs? If it was that Blender script, where's the .BLENDs?

I don't think the models were made with Blender.

1. Might wanna put that as a download on SF too.
2. Was it 3d's Max? In that case, if 3DS's were provided, the models could be edited with free software.

Ka-bump.

Yet another bump. I'll keep on with this until Nexuiz is 100% editable with free software.

Why do you need to edit the source models? Make your own.

ScottS wrote:Why do you need to edit the source models? Make your own.

Still can't do much with that if you can't export them into the proper format for Nex compatibility, which is what he's asking about.

Bump.

One free modelling prog (except for Blender) is Milkshape: http://www.milkshape3d.com/. Though as you can read about it on the site, it's for low-poly modeler and has basic operations like select, move, rotate, scale, extrude, turn edge, subdivide and can go on low-level editing with vertex and faces.

Milkshape = Not free . Shareware, $25. It is a good lowpoly modeller and it can do animations/bones with export to pretty well EVERY format imaginable. It can do SMD/PSK/MD5 etc etc, I use it mainly as a endpoint in my workflow to get my finished models into quake games. It can fully export and import SMD. Afaik it can only import MD5, which is strange, but since it does everything else no troubles ^^; mainly it can do SMD.

*Edit*: Milkshape is actually ok up to date. Aside from weightpainting, it has it's job complete. It has a large community and has stood the test of time. I definitly reccomend it for anyone trying to get from blender -> Halflife 2 SMD since it's so darned cheap. See http://chumbalum.swissquake.ch/ms3d/index.html for the list of all 70 supported formats.

Wings 3D is open source: http://www.wings3d.com/ It's an easy program to learn, some modelers use this with blender (model in W3D, animate in Blender)

SharpConstruct is also open source, but early in development. It's useable though. http://sharp3d.sourceforge.net/mediawik ... /Main_Page

HTH

Can anyone please post a step-by-step tut on using zmodel in windows? I haven't been able to get it to work myself.

Sharp construct, well, The lead guy (Something Bishop) is responsible now for blenders sculpting system : P. If you get the blender cvs from Graphicall it has sculpting beyond sharp construct made by the same developer.