I'm usually not compelled to do this but, I think some of the weapons could use some improvements. Here are my thoughts:

∙ The HLAC's secondary fire really makes you jump too high (of course, there is a huge price to pay but, still).
∙ The HLAC's primary fire starts accurate and gets inaccurate. So as soon as you stop shooting, it becomes accurate. I think the accuracy should just be constant.
∙ A lot of guns use the same ammo. I think the hager and mortar should use a new ammo type and, the HLAC should use machine gun ammo.
∙ IMHO, the mortar's secondary fire should be completely changed (Perhaps a close range thing like HLAC's secondary fire?).
∙ The crylink primary fire should spread just a little bit faster.

edit: These aren't really bugs but, I didn't know were to put this.

I like your idea about the HLAC using machinegun ammo, especially since no other weapon except the machinegun uses it.

I love secondary mortar

Sec mortar is sometimes useful: two, three sec mortar + 1 primary mortar -> same as electro trap.

Hagar sec is really useless.

Alien wrote:Sec mortar is sometimes useful: two, three sec mortar + 1 primary mortar -> same as electro trap.

It just seems too similar.

Alien wrote:Hagar sec is really useless.

I use it when someone turns a corner. I think most maps aren't really made for it.

Seriously the hole Hagar is useless.

ChristmasBot wrote:Seriously the hole Hagar is useless.

Regardless, what do you think of my suggestions?

☃ (snowman) wrote:∙ The HLAC's secondary fire really makes you jump too high (of course, there is a huge price to pay but, still).

Well yes , but i think its not that usefull, most of the maps you can't jump that high and it costs about 100 HP. Ok in Mentalspace its pretty usefull.

☃ (snowman) wrote:∙ The HLAC's primary fire starts accurate and gets inaccurate. So as soon as you stop shooting, it becomes accurate. I think the accuracy should just be constant.

No i think its fine and some kind of realistic. (wait, Nexuiz + realistic = NOT )

☃ (snowman) wrote:∙ A lot of guns use the same ammo. I think the hager and mortar should use a new ammo type and, the HLAC should use machine gun ammo.

1st point: No , Hagar and Mortar and the RL are using a kind of rockets so they should have the same ammo type. 2nd point: Agree.

☃ (snowman) wrote:∙ IMHO, the mortar's secondary fire should be completely changed (Perhaps a close range thing like HLAC's secondary fire?).

NO, the 2nd mortar secondary is awesome

☃ (snowman) wrote:∙ The crylink primary fire should spread just a little bit faster.

Yeah, at least we could try it

ChristmasBot wrote:

☃ (snowman) wrote:∙ A lot of guns use the same ammo. I think the hager and mortar should use a new ammo type and, the HLAC should use machine gun ammo.

1st point: No , Hagar and Mortar and the RL are using a kind of rockets so they should have the same ammo type.

I always thought they looked like grenades myself.
edit: I meant the hagar and the mortar

ChristmasBot wrote:

☃ (snowman) wrote:∙ IMHO, the mortar's secondary fire should be completely changed (Perhaps a close range thing like HLAC's secondary fire?).

NO, the 2nd mortar secondary is awesome

It's starting to seem like its just me.

☃ (snowman) wrote:

ChristmasBot wrote:

☃ (snowman) wrote:∙ A lot of guns use the same ammo. I think the hager and mortar should use a new ammo type and, the HLAC should use machine gun ammo.

1st point: No , Hagar and Mortar and the RL are using a kind of rockets so they should have the same ammo type.

I always thought they looked like grenades myself.

The ammunition shared between the Rocket Launcher, Grenade Launcher, and Hagar are warheads, not rocket motors.

Looks aside, with 4 guns soon using the same ammo, it's harder to run out of ammo with those guns.

We need new ammo box to be modelled then. Model new ammo box and weapons might be split to use it.

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/472/ammodf0.png
I don't know how to use blender so, I used sketchup instead (this way I can at least help with the concept). I tried to avoid making it look like the shotgun ammo.

So, these are probably not going to happen?

Somebody needs to model this and then only gameplay code could be changed. As well, there is an issue that all maps should be rebuilt cause some weapons with new ammo wouldn't have their ammo included. Questions about modeling should go to editing thread.

Alien wrote:As well, there is an issue that all maps should be rebuilt cause some weapons with new ammo wouldn't have their ammo included.

I'm not sure that's big deal, it's always possible to temporarily increase the default amount of ammo in the guns. What about the other things?

☃ (snowman) wrote:∙ The HLAC's primary fire starts accurate and gets inaccurate. So as soon as you stop shooting, it becomes accurate. I think the accuracy should just be constant.

Crouching with the hlac increases accuracy

☃ (snowman) wrote:∙ IMHO, the mortar's secondary fire should be completely changed (Perhaps a close range thing like HLAC's secondary fire?)

NO
But I do think the secondary's fire speed should be lowered so its more useful

no , why faster? its good
i think this topic is in the wrong section , probably more people answer if it would be in Editing or somewhere else.
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Agama wrote:

☃ (snowman) wrote:∙ The HLAC's primary fire starts accurate and gets inaccurate. So as soon as you stop shooting, it becomes accurate. I think the accuracy should just be constant.

Crouching with the hlac increases accuracy

My concern isn't how accurate it is, just that it varies.

Mirio wrote:i think this topic is in the wrong section , probably more people answer if it would be in Editing or somewhere else.
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My thoughts exactly, I somehow missed this one. Well, move is on the way.

Mirio wrote:no , why faster? its good

Its very easy when your spamming a hallway with them to just run right past them because they go so fast if it were to be lowered they wouldnt zoom out right past the person.

☃ (snowman) wrote:My concern isn't how accurate it is, just that it varies.

Thats prevents the gun from being just just by spamming.. which means to be accurate you have to use short bursts which CAN mean less damage to your target.
Less damage balances stuff.

☃ (snowman) wrote:http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/472/ammodf0.png
I don't know how to use blender so, I used sketchup instead (this way I can at least help with the concept). I tried to avoid making it look like the shotgun ammo.

LOOK OUT!! dont trip over the* ... .. too late .

esteel wrote:

☃ (snowman) wrote:My concern isn't how accurate it is, just that it varies.

Thats prevents the gun from being just just by spamming.. which means to be accurate you have to use short bursts which CAN mean less damage to your target.
Less damage balances stuff.

Okay, that makes sense but, I'm not sure it does or doesn't do that. I'll take note of it to see if it discourages spamming . Personally, what discourages me most from spamming is rare ammo (but that's a mapping problem too).

Grasshopper wrote:

☃ (snowman) wrote:http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/472/ammodf0.png
I don't know how to use blender so, I used sketchup instead (this way I can at least help with the concept). I tried to avoid making it look like the shotgun ammo.

LOOK OUT!! dont trip over the* ... .. too late .

, it's a work in progress.