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Camping rifle scope
Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:54 pm

  • wouldn't it be great if the campingrifle (the new model) have a real scope?

    it would look like this (by zooming in)

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Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:58 pm

  • It would be great, in my opinion.

    As I understand it though, it wouldn't work- since the scope would block out people's vision, Nexuiz players would just turn it off, as they do with any aspect of the game that isn't absolutely vital for playing it. And I don't think there is any way to prevent them from doing that. :\
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Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:00 pm

  • Whatever, if they turn it off, they turn it off.

    People that have to "cheat" to do better don't get the full experience.
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Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:19 pm

  • thanks for the reply
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Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:23 pm

  • I would like that, By the way, did you make that scope? It looks great!
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Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:47 pm

  • Darcshadow7 wrote:I would like that, By the way, did you make that scope? It looks great!


    i did not made the camping rifle but yes i made the scope :D
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Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:51 pm

  • torus wrote:It would be great, in my opinion.

    As I understand it though, it wouldn't work- since the scope would block out people's vision :\


    i worked on that, i made the black a bit transparent so you can see whats going on
    outside the scope.

    check out here:

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Sun Mar 01, 2009 10:10 pm

  • [-z-] wrote:Whatever, if they turn it off, they turn it off.

    People that have to "cheat" to do better don't get the full experience.


    that's right :wink:
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Sun Mar 01, 2009 10:48 pm

  • Could you make a scope as a crosshair and then as part of the +zoom_in and +zoom_out you load that crosshair and then the original one back? It's a hack and would only be set up for a single crosshair but if someone really wants to see a sniper scope, this would do it.
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Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:24 am

  • Firstly the zoom for the camper rifle is the middle mouse button where as for the nex its the secondary. So if you have a scope for the camper rifle you will probably have it for all the weapons you zoom in with using the middle mouse button.

    Secondly people would just use fov zoom scripts to get past this.

    Btw, really nice scope.
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Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:37 pm

  • You can use the middle mouse button on ALL guns, including the nexgun. Its just that noone had a better idea for the secondary button on the nex :P

    But i for one would not like such a scope effect. Nexuiz is about fast gameplay and a scope would slow it down and also change weapon balance. Besides people hardly use zoom unless its really huge maps..
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Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:06 pm

  • does anyone want to do the code things and stuff, or try it (set crosshair in config.cfg to 50)
    you can download it here:

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    also included: photoshop (.psd) file and .png file :D
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Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:08 pm

  • Ed wrote:Could you make a scope as a crosshair and then as part of the +zoom_in and +zoom_out you load that crosshair and then the original one back? It's a hack and would only be set up for a single crosshair but if someone really wants to see a sniper scope, this would do it.


    can you do that for me i dont understand it right.
    HERE you can get the files:
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Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:40 pm

  • flipje225 wrote:can you do that for me i dont understand it right.
    HERE you can get the files:

    Can't do it myself right now due to the unreal life I lead. Plus from what [-z-] says there could be some better way available.
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Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:35 pm

  • esteel wrote:You can use the middle mouse button on ALL guns, including the nexgun. Its just that noone had a better idea for the secondary button on the nex :P

    But i for one would not like such a scope effect. Nexuiz is about fast gameplay and a scope would slow it down and also change weapon balance. Besides people hardly use zoom unless its really huge maps..


    And camping rifle is meant for camping so scope would add greater effect. I wonder what's the possibility of making scope default for camping rifle.
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Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:26 am
Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:57 am

  • ty
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Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:23 am

  • The second version looks good.
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Tue Mar 03, 2009 7:31 pm

  • i cant get it working
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Tue Mar 03, 2009 8:11 pm
Tue Mar 03, 2009 9:34 pm

  • [-z-] wrote:set crosshair_per_weapon 1


    but it only needs to appear if its zoomed in
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Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:23 pm

  • Exactly. It's not the same as adding a crosshair.
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Wed Mar 04, 2009 1:23 am

  • Well then perhaps you need to find someone to code in 2 states per weapon. zoomed in and not.
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Wed Mar 04, 2009 4:19 am

  • It would be good if the very middle were transparent rather than a black dot: this _will_ improve your aim. I've used both types of crosshairs (ones I made) and the vacated middle was the best for picking out a target and hitting it.
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Wed Mar 04, 2009 10:54 am

  • I wouldn't say it will improve your aim. It depends on the individual. I for instance have to have a dot (I'm actually playing with the dot ingame) in order to tell my brain that I can hit something. If it is empty in the middle it feels like I am missing the players.
    So, transparent in the middle or not is an individual basis nothing one can say that one is better than the other.
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Wed Mar 04, 2009 12:15 pm

  • Yea but really... It's still better (the dot doesn't obscure the player, allows you to reach beyond your zoom spec). The plink sound tells you if you hit it or not. Try that out for awhile.
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Wed Mar 04, 2009 12:37 pm

  • I know the hit sound plays when you hit something. But for me for instance, if I have a circle without anything in the middle it distracts me as I don't know when the player is in the middle. Even if the circle is small, it just doesn't coop with my brain having no point that tells what exactly I'm aiming at.
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Wed Mar 04, 2009 7:17 pm

  • Thank you for the comments, I would like to hear one who can make script for zoom_in and zoom_out.
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Wed Mar 04, 2009 7:51 pm

  • Here's as basic as you can get but there are some downfalls to this method, the crosshair is only different when you zoom in and it canvases all weapons based on their crosshair_* definitions

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    bind mouse3 +zoom_with_crosshair

    alias +zoom_with_crosshair "+zoom; crosshair_per_weapon 1"

    alias -zoom_with_crosshair "-zoom; crosshair_per_weapon 0"



    Annd the more complicated... smarter way on a PER WEAPON basis...

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    crosshair_per_weapon 1

    bind mouse3 +zoom_with_crosshair

    set crosshair_campingrifle_in "12"
    set crosshair_campingrifle_out "14"

    crosshair_campingrifle $crosshair_campingrifle_out

    alias +zoom_with_crosshair "+zoom ; crosshair_campingrifle $crosshair_campingrifle_in"

    alias -zoom_with_crosshair "-zoom ; crosshair_campingrifle $crosshair_campingrifle_out"



    the numbers correspond to your crosshair*.tga files in your gfx directory.
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