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  • Welcome to the main thread for player model related work. This thread is created for the purpose of cooperating to create player models. Thus, any concept arts, ideas or previews you have for any player model, existing improved ones or completely new ones, then post them here. Here we will then evaluate and discuss the various contributions. This whole idea was SINsnipers idea and he offered to organize and coordinate this project.

    I of course am a modeler, texturer, rigger and animator. However, work in these fields are appreciated as one guy doing all these things is a bit much (plus 20+ different animations for each player model). I know of a few who would like to help with this and thus, this is a thread for us to coordinate the whole process, to help make it as efficient as possible without hickups or cases where people work on the same thing but only one would be chosen, discouraging the other one.

    The current player models that are being worked on that I for sure know is the 'Nexus'/'Ivan' model which I'm working on. Any other people doing other models please come fourth telling which one and maybe even show progress shots for people to see how far you've come.

    So, without further ado, I give the floor to you guys. I'll see what SINsniper has to say then go from there.

    Cheers!
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Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:44 pm

  • i'm in. eager to help with concept art and recruiting modelers and people who are willing to help, count on me ;)
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  • Here's a near-total conversion of pyria.
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    This was done with blender and photoshop only. I started by importing pyria.zym (nex 2.4), NOT from model sources. If your blender doesn't have zymotic import and Nexuiz SMD export be sure to get these scripts:
    http://toolz.nexuizninjaz.com/modeling/ishan/justscripts.zip
    http://toolz.nexuizninjaz.com/modeling/ishan/NexuizBlender.zip

    Included is everything you need to make your custom pyria.
    Everything is configured so all you have to do is edit the basic pyria, export your static mesh as mesh.smd and run the compiler. The idle animation is customized but the old one is included. If you want the old idle animation use smd_idle.smd in the config-zym.txt instead of just idle.smd when you compile.

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    The blender file comes with 2 versions of pyria on different layers. DO NOT SCALE OR MOVE THE MODELS because it confuses the smd exporter. The medieval pyria is 2.3K polys and the basic pyria is 1.8K. Basic pyria IS NOT COMPLETE SO PLEASE DONT PUT HER ON SERVERS YET. This is released so people can have a base to work on as they learn to edit player models.

    Much of pyria's body was rebuilt using the blender retopo tool (check it out, seriously) over a high poly makehuman mesh. Other than the boots, pyria was modeled naked so adding various clothes is easy.

    The zip has the standard file structure so if you just want to see it in-game you can rename it to a pk3 and drop it in your data folder to REPLACE the standard pyria.

    Download PYRIA.ZIP: http://www.significanceltd.com/test/pyria.zip
    (someone please mirror)
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Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:12 am

  • ihsan wrote:Other than the boots, pyria was modeled naked


    PIX? :shock:
    NAO! :D
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  • alpha wrote:
    ihsan wrote:Other than the boots, pyria was modeled naked


    PIX? :shock:
    NAO! :D

    OMFG. If you really need to see her naked YOU repaint the texture yourself. :roll:


    No bump or spec maps but here's some better angles of the mesh-
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    I swear those guns are too big...
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    Warning! Ugly seams ahead!
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    I'm really excited to see what the community can do with this base. For the record EVERYTHING is post is GPL (although i never remember to include the licence file).

    I'm not sure when I'll get the time to do a base male character. I'll probably start with insurrectionist.
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Sat Jun 13, 2009 8:09 am

  • Good looking model! It needs better definition from where the pants end and the skin starts at the rear area.

    One thing that has been bothering me is the rigs (bones and joints). Are we planning on having one set of bones and the same animations for each models or unique ones? Cause at the current stage it looks more like it's all going to be unique bones and unique animations. I actually am for unique animations for each characters but that means more work AND the most important thing, releasing the models with all the animations, bones/joints/rigs, so that others could change anything if needed.

    There seems to be many player modelers currently, so many that I lost track. This also makes me confused on who actually is doing anything and who/which has forgot/gave up on this. Having no contact with them or hearing anything from them doesn't help.
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  • ai wrote:One thing that has been bothering me is the rigs (bones and joints). Are we planning on having one set of bones and the same animations for each models or unique ones? Cause at the current stage it looks more like it's all going to be unique bones and unique animations. I actually am for unique animations for each characters but that means more work AND the most important thing, releasing the models with all the animations, bones/joints/rigs, so that others could change anything if needed.

    There seems to be many player modelers currently, so many that I lost track. This also makes me confused on who actually is doing anything and who/which has forgot/gave up on this. Having no contact with them or hearing anything from them doesn't help.


    Up to now the process for actually getting a model in or out of nexuiz really was a mess. Many artists just abandoned their projects out of exporter frustration. I went through a lot of trouble to collect working blender scripts and they get the job done pretty well :http://toolz.nexuizninjaz.com/modeling/ishan/justscripts.zip

    As per unique animations, it only makes sense. For now many of the characters share similar animations but i don't expect that to be the case for very long. I LOVE the workflow. I like the way the animations are separate from the mesh file. It really makes it easy for animators to work separately from modellers. I hope people will download pyria.zip and use it to learn the workflow.
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Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:19 pm

  • I think she needs some armor. She looks very vulnerable right now... :P
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  • Your zym importer script seems to work, although the animations seem to be broken. The keyframes are there in the action editor, but moving the green line around does not do anything in the 3d view (in pose mode). Exporting is apparently broken too, as it writes a 437 byte file which I assume won't work :)

    Or maybe I'm doing something wrong?

    Edit: Animations now work after disabling interpolation
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  • im interested in learning blender and maya . i have blender right now going thru tuts and such but any heads up is nice . i would like to contribute sometime in the future .
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  • Grasshopper wrote:im interested in learning blender and maya . i have blender right now going thru tuts and such but any heads up is nice . i would like to contribute sometime in the future .
    Checked this thread, especially this link?
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  • I agree with FruitieX that she is not prepared for battle, she would fit second life shopping centre perfectly but not battle field full of explosions and bullets flying everywhere :P

    I LOVE the workflow. I like the way the animations are separate from the mesh file. It really makes it easy for animators to work separately from modellers
    I love it too :)

    I actually am for unique animations for each characters but that means more work AND the most important thing, releasing the models with all the animations, bones/joints/rigs, so that others could change anything if needed.
    for all these years no one produced nice animations for nexuiz, so lets aim to have separate anims for each model, lets aim for impossible \o/
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  • FruitieX wrote:Your zym importer script seems to work, although the animations seem to be broken. The keyframes are there in the action editor, but moving the green line around does not do anything in the 3d view (in pose mode). Exporting is apparently broken too, as it writes a 437 byte file which I assume won't work :)

    Or maybe I'm doing something wrong?

    Edit: Animations now work after disabling interpolation


    The only script which doesn't work is the zym exporter. It is a place-holder at the moment. To get a working zym use the nexuiz smd exporter to output the mesh and animations in smd format, then run zmodel (or dpmodel) on the smds.
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Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:43 pm

  • ihsan wrote:
    FruitieX wrote:Your zym importer script seems to work, although the animations seem to be broken. The keyframes are there in the action editor, but moving the green line around does not do anything in the 3d view (in pose mode). Exporting is apparently broken too, as it writes a 437 byte file which I assume won't work :)

    Or maybe I'm doing something wrong?

    Edit: Animations now work after disabling interpolation


    The only script which doesn't work is the zym exporter. It is a place-holder at the moment. To get a working zym use the nexuiz smd exporter to output the mesh and animations in smd format, then run zmodel (or dpmodel) on the smds.


    Weird, when I tried this and compiled my model, the zym only has one animation for all the actions, even though the smd files are of different sizes, zmodel outputted the correct frame numbers etc... Do I need anything else than the .zym file for it to work?
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  • FruitieX wrote:Weird, when I tried this and compiled my model, the zym only has one animation for all the actions, even though the smd files are of different sizes, zmodel outputted the correct frame numbers etc... Do I need anything else than the .zym file for it to work?

    zmodel uses a text file to link it's smds and configure the animations, in the sources it is config-zym.txt.
    Use the smd exporter to export "all animations" from your imported zym and modify config-zym.txt to use those smd's for animations when compiling.
    It takes a while to configure the first time but I promise that the first time you get this to work you will think it's the best way this could possibly be done.
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Sat Jul 11, 2009 1:03 pm

  • guys, what if i'll take a concept of model from ut2004 ? I'm really like one of the models..
    do this too bad? :roll:
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Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:15 pm

  • Sinister wrote:guys, what if i'll take a concept of model from ut2004 ? I'm really like one of the models..
    do this too bad? :roll:

    That would mean it can't be GPL and, hence, not included in an official release. Doesn't mean it's not worth doing.
    If you just like the general idea of the model but plan to make something similar from scratch, that would be OK. As my art teacher said; we all get inspiration from the things around us, we can't un-see what we have already seen, so as long as your intention is not to make a copy then it should be OK. At the very least, if you want something to look like something else, let a day pass and work from memory. It will turn out pretty different.
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Thu Jul 23, 2009 6:11 pm

  • here is screenshot of original concept and my.
    red circles on original is details that i changed
    red on "my" is possible details
    maybe someone could advice me about concept and GPL
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  • Sinister wrote:here is screenshot of original concept and my.
    red circles on original is details that i changed
    red on "my" is possible details
    maybe someone could advice me about concept and GPL
    Ehm... please repost the picture over at nexuizninjaz gallery. thanks in advance.
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  • ahhm sorry..
    here is screenshot of original concept and my.
    red circles on original is details that i changed
    red on "my" is possible details
    maybe someone could advice me about concept and GPL

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