Hi, i was thinking of a sort of ranking system.
Don't know if it is possible .

you can earn these medals:

DM:
- Bronze (5 frags in a row)
- Silver 50% (10 frags in a row)
- Silver (15 frags in a row)
- White gold (20 frags in a row)
- Gold 25% (25 frags in a row)
- Gold 50% (Max 1 death 30 frags (in a game) )
- Gold (30 frags in a row)

CTF: (total caps)
- Bronze (5 returns in a game)
- Silver (5 caps in a game)
- Gold (100 caps 100 returns total)

The red star indicates how many times you earned this medal

I made a concept of how it would look like:
here!

And also it knows the difference between bots and humans (by name)
so you dont get points if you play against bots.

Tell me what you think about it or what needs to be changed.

I dont know how to make this but i hope some one does.

I do like this idea, but, im not sure about the dm medals, i think they should act like the CTF medals.

Darcshadow7 wrote:I do like this idea, but, im not sure about the dm medals, i think they should act like the CTF medals.

how do you mean?

I totally support this idea, would be awesome to have some 'achievements' in the game. ^_^
Btw, on that pic, I think gold should have the color that's the second medal from the right (of the DM medals). Gold usually is sparkly yellow more than the last color.

This would also allow other achievements like:

frag someone in midair
kill someone with the laser
pickup the flag when its in midair
return the flag when its in midair
get a midair mortar shot
etc.

I'm sure I could think of loads.

Since we now have weapon statistics (YAY! :3), there could be per weapon achievements, best and worst. This would be really really nice to have on the scorelist! Kills a second award.....

If we were to expand this idea a bit, if we think of achievements as in statistical rankings on a per server all players there basis. This would maybe require leagues/classes/a whole lot of other rewards than gold, white gold, silver, platinum, steel, bronze, bismuth, tellurium, adamantium, latinum, nexium, botdillium, omgum, failium, gems(?) and so on.

Take a look at the CoD 4 system and you win.

I thought of this before. With level system :P So you can gain exp and level up.
More fun achievements could be, "What's up doc?" hop 1000 times. "Superman" be airborne in 20 seconds. etc etc :P
Plus we can have a medal/trophy/badge system too :)

Ixion wrote:More fun achievements could be, "What's up doc?" hop 1000 times.

Ripping of TF2? TF2 have an achievement that you have to jump 1000 times for to get.

Fisume! wrote:Take a look at the CoD 4 system and you win.

Bad, can easily be cheated.

Edit: I vote for a QL-like login system.

I think a ranking system would be great, although, it would be best if there were a central server where this info would be tracked.

keep em coming!

If achievements were to be a social status symbol, then there would need to be game-wide verification by authentication servers, as proposed by some of XenoTheBlind's community members...

But to properly replicate the STEAM™ eXPerience™, server-client file verification would have to follow, and then invasive runtime scans.

UPDATE!!!

-Medals are now sorted
-The "more golden" medal at the end
-Special medals

EDIT: you need to have the bronzen one before you earn the next one. (and so on...)
(damn all these things gonna be weeks of work)

cool, but srsly, there should be at least a bit of difficulty to get such a medal, maybe replace "5 frags" with "250 frags" on DM (the bronze one).

EDIT: just realized that you were talking about frags IN A ROW...

Also, maybe give the medals (there could also be cups etc for other types of tasks) a small discription as name, like on Call of Duty, hope you understand me ...

Example of CoD:
What the..? - Kill through door

Nice idea and cool looking medals, though this will be somewhat difficult to implement it the right way. In an open source game it is very easy to cheat to get the medals, and since it would be nice to use them online as well - the system has to be protected in some way.

I think the best way to go is to have medals per server, where a server can change the amount of needed caps/kills/specials. To secure this properly it would be best to use the "global authentication system", which unfortunately isn't implemented yet. It would also be a good idea to set a minimal real player limit for the achievements to count.

If it is just saved in a sort of .cfg file, is it possible to protect it with a password?

Fisume! wrote:Also, maybe give the medals (there could also be cups etc for other types of tasks) a small discription as name, like on Call of Duty, hope you understand me ...

i don't play cod but do you mean this:


but "5 frags in a row" is a discription

ai wrote:

Ixion wrote:More fun achievements could be, "What's up doc?" hop 1000 times.

Ripping of TF2? TF2 have an achievement that you have to jump 1000 times for to get.

I don't know the TF2 achievements at all. So no. :)

The medals look great.
I think this should be a server thing and different servers can configure different medals. Put them next to your name in the scoreboard.
As long as there is no gameplay benefit to having medals then there is no need for server authentication. If someone wants to lie about their achievements let them.
May even help in team balancing.
There should be something in single player too but who plays singleplayer anyway?
IMHO.

i agree there should be some REAL serious medal awards that are hard to achieve, I collected some ideas together too:

- Win a DM match without dieing. (with playing from beginning)
- Win a match with the highest nex accuracy.
- Same with mortar
- Collect more than 50 frags in a match (match not longer than 20 minutes)
- Collect 5 airshot on a match.
- Collect 5 headshot on a match.
- Make at least 15 frags in a DM match with shotgun (shotgun ftw)
- Collect at least 10 frags with a single quad rush
- Collect more than 20 quadfrags on a DM match
- Be the first in CTF in the winning team with more death than frags (for Mirio )
- Frag someone midair with laser
- Frag someone midair with rocket (without secondary button blowing it up)
- Kill someone with mortar from more than XY unit distance
- Frag at least 3 guys with one single electro-combo
- Frag two guys in the same time with one nexshot.
- Make a midair frag with hagar secondary (crazy )
- Finish a map with a kill/death ratio at least 5


Also, about ranking system, I was thinking of a cool idea: how about to make some of the neatest characters and colors unlockable? Not many, just like 5 chars and 5 colors or sth. It should depend on the players "level" wether he can choose it or not (headhunter, lurk, armored carni, fricka and quark maybe). However I orignally thought this idea would be the best to implement in the single player mode, so people will have intention to play it through
Ohh and also, i think from medals there just cant be enough, so maybe it should worth to create tabs under ranking, like: frag combos, skill, experience (for all-together frag amount) etc... just to keep it clean.

--FraNcoTirAdoR-- wrote:i agree there should be some REAL serious medal awards that are hard to achieve, I collected some ideas together too:

Me to!

--FraNcoTirAdoR-- wrote:- Win a DM match without dieing. (with playing from beginning)

Allready in it:

--FraNcoTirAdoR-- wrote:- Win a match with the highest nex accuracy.

sounds great!

--FraNcoTirAdoR-- wrote:- Same with mortar

sounds even better!

--FraNcoTirAdoR-- wrote:- Collect more than 50 frags in a match (match not longer than 20 minutes)

Ok

--FraNcoTirAdoR-- wrote:- Collect 5 airshot on a match.

C00L

--FraNcoTirAdoR-- wrote:- Collect 5 headshot on a match.

yeah instead of 20 headshots total, 5 in a match is better.

--FraNcoTirAdoR-- wrote:- Make at least 15 frags in a DM match with shotgun (shotgun ftw)

oh oh oh great but i suck with the shotgun :p

--FraNcoTirAdoR-- wrote:- Collect at least 10 frags with a single quad rush

great!

--FraNcoTirAdoR-- wrote:- Collect more than 20 quadfrags on a DM match

what if a map doesnt have quad?

--FraNcoTirAdoR-- wrote:- Be the first in CTF in the winning team with more death than frags (for Mirio )

--FraNcoTirAdoR-- wrote:- Frag someone midair with laser

good

--FraNcoTirAdoR-- wrote:- Frag someone midair with rocket (without secondary button blowing it up)

thats hard i think but c00l

--FraNcoTirAdoR-- wrote:- Kill someone with mortar from more than XY unit distance

I dont get this

--FraNcoTirAdoR-- wrote:- Frag at least 3 guys with one single electro-combo

This is great but hard on 1on1

--FraNcoTirAdoR-- wrote:- Frag two guys in the same time with one nexshot.

also on minsta?

--FraNcoTirAdoR-- wrote:- Make a midair frag with hagar secondary (crazy )

yes very!

--FraNcoTirAdoR-- wrote:- Finish a map with a kill/death ratio at least 5

what?

--FraNcoTirAdoR-- wrote:Also, about ranking system, I was thinking of a cool idea: how about to make some of the neatest characters and colors unlockable? Not many, just like 5 chars and 5 colors or sth. It should depend on the players "level" wether he can choose it or not (headhunter, lurk, armored carni, fricka and quark maybe). However I orignally thought this idea would be the best to implement in the single player mode, so people will have intention to play it through

yeah maybe some sort of aura like this (like you have in tekken or like this:


(my worst photoshop ever! ) but you know what i mean.

--FraNcoTirAdoR-- wrote:Ohh and also, i think from medals there just cant be enough, so maybe it should worth to create tabs under ranking, like: frag combos, skill, etc... just to keep it clean.

yes thats better!

Oeh oeh i have another idea of how we do this with multiplayer and then you dont have to make a ranking system for all servers.

with levels.
if you have (just saying something) 10 medals you get 1 star
if you have 20 medals you get 2 stars. and so on...

like this:


lol normally bots don't have ranking stars but just to let you see how it should look like

Kay, you asked what if the map doesn't have quad: well... and what if the map has no nex or mortar? The point is that medals shouldnt be made for only CTF or DeathMatch gametype, if we put different medals for different gametypes, we can force players to try other modes too if they want to collect everything, that way it can bring back some fun to the game and raise the number of game modes currently played Im sure there is not a single person in the community who thinks its okey that nexuiz has like 10-15 gamemode, but only CTF, Minsta, and DM (oh yeah and Race) is played at all technically. This maybe would solve it partially. Also i wrote stuff intentionally that i dont think so is really hard to code, these are only valid for 1 match, not something like "collect 1000 frags in a week" or sth.
Okey I explain what i meant about the mortar: to kill someone from a specific distance thats greater than the limit. So make a medal for "frag someone with mortar from at least 50 metres", thats what I meant Thats pretty cool and hard especially due the mortars arch.
Also on the kill/death ration of 5 i mean that you kill 5 times more people at least than you die.
About that auro sourrounding the guy: i think it should be maybe a mod only, because it can be pretty annoying to have it by default, glowing guys running up and down everywhere
Ohh and I forgot to mention: amazing work on the logos if there will be many more awards however, I would participate happily in the creation of their icons!

Kay wrote:Oeh oeh i have another idea of how we do this with multiplayer and then you dont have to make a ranking system for all servers.

with levels.
if you have (just saying something) 10 medals you get 1 star
if you have 20 medals you get 2 stars. and so on...

like this:


lol normally bots don't have ranking stars but just to let you see how it should look like

Okey now thats some serious idea i think, it would be EXTREMELY useful, players could see in the server browser before joining how good are the players currently playing on the server, maybe this should only depend on the alltogether frags made yet, because in most game modes the more frag you make along the time the more experienced you will become. Like 1 star until 100 frags, 2 stars until 500, 3 until 2000 etc.

Why couldnt they be stored client side? People are only breaking their own fun with modfiying the medals they earned.

--FraNcoTirAdoR-- wrote:About that auro sourrounding the guy: i think it should be maybe a mod only, because it can be pretty annoying to have it by default, glowing guys running up and down everywhere

maybe only if you have a strength or shield

--FraNcoTirAdoR-- wrote:Ohh and I forgot to mention: amazing work on the logos if there will be many more awards however, I would participate happily in the creation of their icons!

okay, if this really gets in the game, I make every medal there is with love and precisely
(btw im studying for graphics design and website design )

check my website: here

but it is under construction, and its in dutch (not german that is deutsch) so i dont know if you can read it, need to make it english too.

You could also add a category for each weapon, e.g.

SHOTGUN
Bronze - 250 kills
Silver - 500 kills
Gold - 1000 kills

CAMPING RIFLE
Bronze - 100 Headshots
Silver - 250 Headshots
Gold - 500 headshots

etc, as a motivation, the weapon skins could be changed just a little bit for each medal.

Kay wrote:

Thats exactly what I recommend not to do To raise out the most played game modes to their own tab: why are these game modes more relevant than the others? This cant force players enough to try other modes just because there is a "special" tab. They can fill out most of these tabs just by playing their usual DM and CTF gametypes, the point is not to make them think: "okey now i earn all the medals in DM by playing only DM for a week". They shouldnt be able to fill out a whole tab by playing only one gametype in my opinion

but you said

--FraNcoTirAdoR-- wrote:Ohh and also, i think from medals there just cant be enough, so maybe it should worth to create tabs under ranking

what kind of tabs then


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