I cant get my vids to play back they are in my list of demo's on nexuiz, but do not appear in the nexuiz/demos folder

"Hourglass (Weapons) - [BOT]Mirio in 18.66 seconds"

is that still the best time? ^

I got 9.33secs on hourglass

SC0RP wrote:do not appear in the nexuiz/demos folder

Good that means it's working. demos go in the nexuiz/data/demos folder.

SC0RP wrote:I cant get my vids to play back they are in my list of demo's on nexuiz, but do not appear in the nexuiz/demos folder

If you're using linux or osx, have a look in ~/.nexuiz/data/demos

[-z-] wrote:

SC0RP wrote:do not appear in the nexuiz/demos folder

Good that means it's working. demos go in the nexuiz/data/demos folder.

yh sorry i did mean that folder. They are not in there, any ideas? Im using osx

SC0RP wrote:

[-z-] wrote:

SC0RP wrote:do not appear in the nexuiz/demos folder

Good that means it's working. demos go in the nexuiz/data/demos folder.

yh sorry i did mean that folder. They are not in there, any ideas? Im using osx

kadaverJack just told you.


Also, make sure that you are recording the demos.

Open Nexuiz and click "demos" in the bottom left. Click "Automatically Record A Demo While Playing" to toggle it on.

[-z-] wrote:

SC0RP wrote:

[-z-] wrote:

SC0RP wrote:do not appear in the nexuiz/demos folder

Good that means it's working. demos go in the nexuiz/data/demos folder.

yh sorry i did mean that folder. They are not in there, any ideas? Im using osx

kadaverJack just told you.


Also, make sure that you are recording the demos.

Open Nexuiz and click "demos" in the bottom left. Click "Automatically Record A Demo While Playing" to toggle it on.

Yh i know all that, ive tried everything. Auto rec is on, ive started a recording in the console. They are in the demo list in nexuiz but they wont play and they are not in the nexuiz/data/demos folder. But i have placed other peeps demos in there and they play. Not sure what else it can be

Again, they are in ~/.nexuiz/data/demos (notice the ~ in front of the path (which means you user's home directory) and the .nexuiz instead of nexuiz (which means it's a hidden folder))
i hope it's clear enough this time...

mkzelda wrote:Misio's Excel File updated: http://mkzelda.com/nexuiz/videos/Nexuiz%20Records.xls

thx for doing this.. but its Mirio.. with R


Scorp: maybe its in an other folder.. search for "Facing" or sth!

Mirio wrote:

mkzelda wrote:Misio's Excel File updated: http://mkzelda.com/nexuiz/videos/Nexuiz%20Records.xls

thx for doing this.. but its Mirio.. with R


Scorp: maybe its in an other folder.. search for "Facing" or sth!

Oops, sorry about that miRio

Right i moved the nexuiz folder to my home directory, cos before i had it on the desktop and it was running though my mac as the server and could not play back! Now the demos are finally playing back within nexuiz woohoo! BUT! they are still not appearing in the demo folder, so i cant get them out of nexuiz and onto here. Im gonna try moving the demo folder onto virtual windows and see if they appear, if not i dont know what the hell is wrong

Scorp, I'm using OS X also. Try this:

1. Go to the Finder
2. In the Go menu, choose Go To Folder...
3. Type ~/.nexuiz
(the squiggle is just below the ESCape key in the upper left of your keyboard)
4. Click the Go button

This will open your hidden .nexuiz folder. I hope this helps.

Can a forum admin make a Mac OS X sticky somewhere with this information? It is probably one of the most common Mac questions.

Thanks Ace, they are all in there

Thanks to all that have helped me with this, cheers and happy new year

new toys new toys , all what i found

19 mai (wep.) 5,05 sec.
Screenshot: http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/7/1/1 ... 000141.jpg
Demo: http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/7/1/1 ... _19mai.dem

dublhelix (no wep.) 24,9 sec. <- lol!
Screenshot: http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/7/1/1 ... 000130.jpg
Demo: http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/7/1/1 ... lhelix.dem

dublhelix (wep.) 11,8 sec.
Screenshot: http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/7/1/1 ... 000129.jpg
Demo: http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/7/1/1 ... lhelix.dem

pyconicCTF (no wep.) 10 sec.
Screenshot: http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/7/1/1 ... 000097.jpg
Demo: http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/7/1/1 ... icctf1.dem

pyconicCTF (wep.) 8,4 sec.
Screenshot: http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/7/1/1 ... 000128.jpg
Demo: http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/7/1/1 ... icctf1.dem

santasantasanta (no wep. , blue to red) 10,89 sec.
Screenshot: http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/7/1/1 ... 000150.jpg
Demo: http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/7/1/1 ... asanta.dem

santasantasanta (no wep. , red to blue) 12,04 sec.
Screenshot: http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/7/1/1 ... 000151.jpg
Demo: http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/7/1/1 ... asanta.dem

sedna (no wep.) 17,1 sec.
Screenshot: http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/7/1/1 ... 000005.jpg
Demo: http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/7/1/1 ... _sedna.dem

sierpinski (no wep.) 19,1 sec.
Screenshot: http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/7/1/1 ... 000139.jpg
Demo: http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/7/1/1 ... _beta2.dem

sierpinski (wep.) 4,5 sec.
Screenshot: http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/7/1/1 ... 000141.jpg
Demo: http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/7/1/1 ... _beta2.dem

swamp (no wep.) 6,8 sec.
Screenshot: http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/7/1/1 ... 000133.jpg
Demo: http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/7/1/1 ... amp_b1.dem

swamp (wep.) 5,7 sec.
Screenshot: http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/7/1/1 ... 000138.jpg
Demo: http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/7/1/1 ... amp_b1.dem

Dark Valley ( 70mm13_11 ) (no wep.) 9,95 sec.
Screenshot: http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/7/1/1 ... 000151.jpg
Demo: http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/7/1/1 ... m13_11.dem

Dark Valley ( 70mm13_11 ) (wep.) 6,95 sec.
Screenshot: http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/7/1/1 ... 000150.jpg
Demo: http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/7/1/1 ... m13_11.dem

SC0RP wrote:I cant get my vids to play back they are in my list of demo's on nexuiz, but do not appear in the nexuiz/demos folder

"Hourglass (Weapons) - [BOT]Mirio in 18.66 seconds"

is that still the best time? ^

I got 9.33secs on hourglass

I got 10.05 secs on hourglass...


With a laser only (that line was a link)

Edit: added link

Mr. Bougo wrote:

SC0RP wrote:I cant get my vids to play back they are in my list of demo's on nexuiz, but do not appear in the nexuiz/demos folder

"Hourglass (Weapons) - [BOT]Mirio in 18.66 seconds"

is that still the best time? ^

I got 9.33secs on hourglass

I got 10.05 secs on hourglass...


With a laser only (that line was a link)

Edit: added link

lol nice link

dusty from blue to red no weapons in 8.37

i tryed 5 times

pavlvs did it in 8.43:

http://www.bitfreak.demon.nl/2008-01-10_01-07_dusty.dem

dusty from blue to red no weapons

8.24
http://www.bitfreak.demon.nl/record_8.24_dusty.dem

Urbanshenkie wrote:dusty from blue to red no weapons

8.24
http://www.bitfreak.demon.nl/record_8.24_dusty.dem

See:

pavlvs327 wrote:Dusty again:

Blue to red, No Weapons: 7.79
AVI: http://www.mediafire.com/?9zlom2zmj5w

and then

[BOT]Misio PL wrote:still easy

Dusty blue to red (no weapons): 7,68
http://www.nexuiz.pl/misio_dusty_blue_t ... weapon.dem

Still some work for you to do...

Revision 3123 - (view) (download) - [select for diffs]
Modified Fri Jan 11 13:39:23 2008 UTC (5 minutes, 32 seconds ago) by div0
File length: 8343 byte(s)
Diff to previous 2959

Speedrun mode: impulse 77 now:
- also restores velocity
- sets huge counts of rockets, nails, cells, shells
- gives you all weapons the map has
- gives you spawn health and armor
- enters speedrun mode
In speedrun mode, a flag capture that takes longer than the record time
automatically gets aborted. The only way to leave speedrun mode is to die. If
you die in speedrun mode, the flag is returned immediately. The timelimit
display of the HUD shows the remaining time to beat the capture record.

I just checked my server logs against the list of current capture records, and found four people who possibly broke a record in our list here:

dusty: Karl's Noob managed a capture in 7.97s.
reservoir-nex_b3: [epic]nubcake got 19.41s
revdm1: [epic]camper got 3.61s
spyglass: [DFF]Ronan got 3.61s

But as for these no demo exists, they may have been - intentionally or not - assisted runs. Still, this may be a heads up so you know which records are likely to be beatable...

It's been a long time since a posted in this thread... Since Carlyle started it I suppose. Anywho...

Dusty - Blue to Red - No Weapons - 7:56

Video: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZO64ZFIY
Demo: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WJC0YHA0

EDIT: Just as a sidenote. I've already beat this time, so do your absolute best or I might punch it out with my reserve time

Now that many great runs have been made and the dust has settled, the time has come to revisit, amend, and clarify the rules. The following suggestions are based on existing content and conversations with participating players

If so, here's the rules:
1. You must have PROOF of the time (flag) capture! (See the [sic] 4th RULE!)
2. All captures are to be done with regular (PURE) Nexuiz settings.
3. The quad cannot be used!
4. The Hook cannot be used!
5. The demo or .avi (PROOF) needs to be uploaded so that challengers may view the run.
6. If a demo is uploaded, Please Provide the exact time of the capture. This will eliminate having to watch a demo all the way through.
7. There are two ways of holding a record. 1. Is to capture using any weapon available on the map. This will be displayed as (Weapons) under the record holder section. 2. Is to NOT USE any weapons at all. This is pure running skill. It will be displayed as (No Weapons) under the record holder section.

RE: #2, Changing the timer to display an extra placeholder and sys_ticrate

<mkzelda> div0: how can I display 1/1000 placeholder in speedruns? ie capptured the flag in 30.125 seconds?
<div0> mkzelda: you could, but the timing is not that accurate
<div0> s = ftos_decimals(t, 2);
<div0> s0 = ftos_decimals(flagcaptimerecord, 2);
<div0> you'd change the digit 2 there
<mkzelda> its accurate to hundredths though
<div0> not even that
<div0> it is accurate to multiples of sys_ticrate
<div0> that means usually 0.05s
<div0> it slightly changes physics, especially regarding laser jumps
<mkzelda> you can change mid-run for different sections
<div0> yes, and changing should be absolutely banned
<div0> either the rules should require a fixed ticrate, or it should require you to specify it when posting
<mkzelda> good idea, ill do the latter for now

Conclusion:
1) changing the timer beyond the hundredths is not beneficial
2) sys_ticrate should not by modified during a run at any time
3) sys_ticrate should be specified for the demo be it 0.01, 0.02, 0.03125, 0.05 or whatever else, see my next point on naming conventions.
4) Getting everyone to agree on one sys_ticrate may be a problem. 0.05 is the default for 2.3. 0.0138889 is the default in svn (which is the desired client b/c of impulse 77). Forcing 0.05 means that those who want something more responsive, faster, and more accurate lose out. Forcing 0.01 means some people will have difficulty keeping up on older computers. This is why I've taken the approach of just posting what we use. This info can be found in the demo file too.

RE: Rule 1&5. The demo or .avi (PROOF) needs to be uploaded so that challengers may view the run.
The demo should always be available. Videos are the icing on the cake.

RE: Rule 7 Wep/Nowep
"There are two ways of holding a record. 1. Is to capture using any weapon available on the map. This will be displayed as (Weapons) under the record holder section. 2. Is to NOT USE any weapons at all. This is pure running skill. It will be displayed as (No Weapons) under the record holder section"

This has been elaborated over several pages of this thread, and I'd like to wrap it up.

Nowep:
- You must start at rest, 0qu/s
- You may not use a weapon at any point in the run or during the run unless a weapon is required to complete the map. Examples of this are digdigdig and desert castle. In these cases its still important that there is no speed advantage gained by the weapon. You may not take advantage of the fact that you are firing a button that could also propel you. Use a shotgun if applicable.
- You may not abuse impulse 77 to gain speed.
- You may do whatever else to build speed prior to grabbing the flag.

Wep:
- You must start rest, 0qu/s
- You may use any weapon in any combination, provided the usage, ammo accumulation and health stacking could be accomplished in the game.
- You may not abuse impulse 77 to gain speed.
- You may do whatever else including using weapons to gain speed prior to grabbing the flag.

There has been enough interest in laser only wep runs that we've kept seperate records for nowep, laser, and wep (full weapons)

Laser:
Same as weapons, but laser only.


Naming Conventions
It would be extremely helpful for us to use a consistent filename scheme for our demos/videos. Besides making the files self-explanatory and easy to read, eventually we will have a demo/video repository that will allow you to submit a demo, grep the demo for the captures and time of caps, store details into a db as well as pack it into .pk3 and link the pk3/video, etc.

For now I'd like to propose something like as follows:
mapname(direction)[physics_ticrate]runtime-weapons-datestamp-runner.dem
where
mapname=the mapname nexuiz writes to .dem currently
direction=b2r, r2b, special (blue to red, red to blue, or if weapon is required on nowep, provided only if needed)
physics=nex2.3, nanl
ticrate=0.01, 0.0138889, 0.02, 0.03125, 0.05 (we should narrow this down)
runtime=00.00.00 placeholder, we have maps that require minutes
datestamp=YYYYMMDD
runner=alias
ex.
forkamuse91(r2b)[nex2.3_0.02]00.12.07-nowep-20080126-mkzelda.dem
spyglass-nex[nex2.3_0.02]00.02.76-laser-20080127-mkzelda.dem
geforce1[nex2.3_0.01]00.03.53-wep-20071225-mkzelda.dem
digdigdig(special)[nex2.3_0.01]00.02.59-nowep-20071221-mkzelda.dem
df_cpma3x-1[nanl_0.02]00.16.880-nowep-20080230-cantwait.dem

I'm not a big fan of using ()[] in filesnames for the sake of not wanting to escape them, but _ . and - are already used in mapnames, runtime, version number and variables. The order is most important, and what I have given the most consideration. The delimiters could be better but I think the order is good.

Final Thoughts
Keep in mind I'm not trying to change any rules here. I'm trying to clarify existing ones, and suggest ways of improving our system. I'm also trying to set up a standard that will work with future speedrun mods. Please feel free to make corrections or advice so we can nail down a newer cleaner set of rules. [/list]

divVerent wrote:I just checked my server logs against the list of current capture records, and found four people who possibly broke a record in our list here:

dusty: Karl's Noob managed a capture in 7.97s.
reservoir-nex_b3: [epic]nubcake got 19.41s
revdm1: [epic]camper got 3.61s
spyglass: [DFF]Ronan got 3.61s

But as for these no demo exists, they may have been - intentionally or not - assisted runs. Still, this may be a heads up so you know which records are likely to be beatable...

u dunno if the use strength..

Nor do you know if it's been done with weapons or not

and mkzelda, i like the demo format style you laid out, but i don't get and i don't think you need the [nex2.3_0.02] <--- the end 3 digits whats that for?

also remove the date from the end of the demo format, it's not needed and it makes it look less cluttered.

Thanks k0jak. I was on the fence about the date.

The 0.02 is an example of the sys_ticrate used. sys_ticrate value can not be recovered from the demo. Since sys_ticrate changes the accuracy of the timer and physics, I was suggesting we include this info in the name. However, since we have no way to confirm the validity of the stated value (and we'll just lock it in mods) I suppose I could eliminate that part of the naming convention too.

SC0RP wrote:I cant get my vids to play back they are in my list of demo's on nexuiz, but do not appear in the nexuiz/demos folder

"Hourglass (Weapons) - [BOT]Mirio in 18.66 seconds"

is that still the best time? ^

I got 9.33secs on hourglass

9.33 with rocketfly I presume...

This thread needs a Laser only section, I'd be happy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU_c-zzGlQ4



And I broke two records on LazyDog, non-assisted... Spyglass (not vsspy) and Lavaflag (LAVAFLOWWWWW)

16.99 on hourglass, without weapons.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/11/7/ ... rglass.dem

Doublepost

Shweet


We must discuss about a rule redefining: rocketboost... Should the runs use the default.cfg vars that affect gameplay? I think it should....

hey all. im new to the alientrap forums. hope these are right posted

Hydronex B3 - 7.80 (weapons) : http://rapidshare.de/files/39127623/hydro2.dem.html
Greatwall Reloaded 3 - 8.55 (weapons) : http://rapidshare.de/files/39127882/greatwall3.dem.html
Dusty - 6.75 (weapons) : http://rapidshare.de/files/39128013/dusty.dem.html

Okay now it's getting boring

Edit:
Cb_CtfB4 - 21.00 (weapons) : http://rapidshare.de/files/39128502/rm6.6.dem.html (still bad, but noone is doing better atm )
Running Man - 6.60 (weapons) : http://rapidshare.de/files/39128503/cb_ctf_b4.dem.html