Yet more computer problems

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Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:02 am

  • I am having yet more computer problems.

    Normally, when I turn it on, it beeps once and turns on.

    Now, half the time, it continuously makes longer beeps, and doesn't procede past a black screen.

    The other half of the time, it just doesn't do anything at all.

    Any ideas?

    We tried a system restore, and that didn't help.
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Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:14 am

  • have you tried updating your BIOS? Also mabie your hard drive died. Does it say anything? If not try turning off the silent boot feature of the system and see if it says anything then. Also if a fan died then a part or two could have been fried. It would probably tell you when the thing boots what the problem is though.
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Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:26 am

  • I don't know how to update the BIOS or turn off the silent boot.

    Very occasionally, it does start up, and last night it seemed to run ok after the system restore, but not now.

    It doesn't say anything of note the few times it actually does work.
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Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:44 am

  • well, if it has to do with a broken fan, your computer would shut off in the middle of you doing something. So, I'm assuming that doesn't happen when it does work.

    It could be the hard drive. If it has experienced shock, or if your hard drive is really old, you would need to replace it. Somehow the system files could have been corrupted. You may have even gotten a virus.

    The bios is still applicable here. Go over to your computer provider's web site, and look for bios updates there. If it's a homebuilt PC or a local shop made it, look up your mainboard's model, and go over to the company's site. They will give you instructions on how to flash and update your bios. However, it's a risky process, so make sure you do this if all else fails, and make sure the power won't die in the middle of the update.

    My last guess would be that there's a floppy or CD in the drive, and when it's not in the drive it boots normally. Also this tends to happen with flash keys, portable hard drives, and Ipods.
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Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:10 am

  • Chek that your ram is properly inserted.. push it in firmly, but not hard. and that might (very well) help.
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Mon Feb 05, 2007 7:10 am

  • This kinda sounds indicate I/O error, so like tChr wrote try pushing the ram, also make sure other add in cards and not the least the cpu in firmly in place.

    And do not try and update bios while the computer is unstable, if it is indeed a ram chip with bad contact it could well crash in the middle of the flash, and that would proly kill yer mobo.
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Mon Feb 05, 2007 7:17 am

  • The beeps when initialising are messages from your PC telling you what is going on during POST. If the beeps change from normal, it indicates that some of your hardware is playing up. A useful starting point to find out what is going wrong can be found at:

    http://www.computerhope.com/beep.htm

    Although if you know the exact motherboard, you may find more accurate info via a google "motherboardmodel POST beep" search.

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Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:46 am

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Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:43 pm

  • We don't have a cat. We do have 2 dogs, though :shock: .

    Alright, when I get home, I'll open it up and try pushing the components back in.

    My brother's external hardrive was attached to backup data. I'll disconnect it.

    I don't feel very good about updating the bios. The last time we had the computer repaired, I think the people at the shop may have installed the wrong motherboard.

    When it still worked, occasionally it would just restart out of nowhere, but it said it was a driver error or conflict or something like that.

    How old is really old? It's also possible it might be a virus. My father used the computer, and he admitted to doing something he didn't understand online.
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Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:46 pm

  • If you turn on your pc, but does nothing, beeps nothing, just blank screen, no bios, that's the PSU dieing. In a matter of time, you'll have to replace it. I know, I've just bought TWO becouse of this.
    Sometimes this happens too when you don't connect the pc to the electric network for a long time. PSU again (my pc here at the uni does this too, I'm thinking and gathering money for a new PSU).
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Tue Feb 06, 2007 2:54 am

  • We don't have a cat. We do have 2 dogs, though :Shocked: .


    I have 5 dogs and 2 cats. And 2 lizards.


    Anyway, if it's beeping it definatly has to do with the pre-boot checkup. Sometimes you can disable it, but I'd leave it on. I don't know how that got past me... :oops:
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Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:31 pm

  • Alright, I tried pushing the RAM back in (I'm pretty sure it was the RAM, anyways...), as well as any other components I could reach.

    I also blew out as much of the dust as I could with my air compressor.

    Still nothing.

    I seem to have something with a Phoenix bios, except that repeated long single beeps doesn't appear to fit any of the beep codes.

    I used the online customer support chat feature, and this is what they said:


    This will nguide you to determined the main cause of this issue.
    Dennis_GWER2389 says:
    To open your tower:
    1 unplug the tower to power outlet.
    2 after unplugging press the power button to remove the flea power or excess power.
    3. Open the tower then reconnect the power cable from the power supply to motherboard. (white connector with multi colored wires) and 12v connector also white connector with 4 colored wires.(you just need to remove and put it back.
    4. Remove the power cable of your hard drive CD drive and DVD drive.
    5. remove the memory card.
    6. Remove all the card that is connected to the Motherboard.
    7. then after that try to plug the tower back to power outlet then check if it will powerup. if still it wont power the problem will be the power supply.

    Note: when it power up turn of again then plug earch componet one by one (ex. plug the memory then turn on the system once it turn on turn off again then plug another componets until everything is back. once the you plug a componet and it didnt turn on it means that components is defective.or the slot were you plug it.) but if all the componet is unplug and it didnt power up it means that the power supply is defective. but when the fan at the back spins it means the Motherboard is defective.

    Please be aware that whenever the case is removed precautions should be taken against electrostatic discharge (ESD). Make sure that the computer is off and unplugged. Please maintain contact with a grounded source, such as your computer's frame or use a grounding strap. Damage resulting from improper grounding may not be covered under the manufacturer's warranty if these precautions are not taken. Simply breaking the seal will not void the manufacturer's warranty.

    When you are going to plug it back plug each component one by one then turn on the system. then turn off then plug another one then turn on again until it works.

    Note: in memory when you remove the memory sticks and when you turn on the system you will hear a beep sound.

    If you hear a beep sound turn off the system then plug the memory back if you pass the e logo it means that one of the components have un issue pluging it one by one can determined which part is defective



    Does that sound about right, you think?
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Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:58 pm

  • well, something that works ALOT for me is just looking for all the connections in my box, and just unplugging them, and re-pluging them in. Make sure you unplug your box and touch the power supply occasionally and before starting to discharge static. This works especially on older PCs.
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Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:43 am

  • I'm posting this from the affected machine!!! :P :P :P

    I disconnected and reconnected all of the power cables mentioned (or at least the ones that would come loose) and removed and reinserted the RAM, and that seemed to do it.
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