Game Controls Locking Up

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Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:51 pm

  • I posted this on the old forums but they are obviously not there anymore... Sorry if someone has to repeat a solution as I didn't get to see any replies on my old post!

    While playing Nexuiz all my controls can lock up and force me to move in one direction for a random amount of time.

    All keyboard and mouse controls don't work until the game decides it wants to give me back control.

    Any ideas?

    I'm running this on an Althon XP 2100+ 1.7Ghz, 512Mb RAM, ATI Radeon 9700 PRO. My keyboard and mouse are PS2 and my mouse is an old MS Intellimouse with a lovely ball (which I did clean!).

    Hope some one can help!
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Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:56 pm

  • I think what tZork and I suggested was:

    If you have wireless keyb/mouse, check batteries, and also check anything that oculd affect the communication, like cellphones, wireless audio or whatever. Also try anpther channel and see if that helps.
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Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:58 pm

  • As I specified, my mouse and keyboard are PS2. They are wired not wireless.
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Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:03 pm

  • Ok.. Does anything like this ever happen in other applications? Make sure you turn windows' "stickykeys' off in case those kick in when holding down or repeatedly clicking some key.. "shift" i think it is by default.
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Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:35 pm

  • Nope. All my other applications are working fine with no sticking at all.

    And I always disable Sticky Keys just after installing Windows... So that can't be a problem.

    Its kinda strange.
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Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:04 pm

  • Have you tried with both the -sdl and normal executables? Thise two differ in the whay they access the hardware so with some luck one of them may do it better then the other.
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Wed Mar 01, 2006 6:35 pm

  • The SDL exe doesn't have this problem.

    I solved the problem by upgrading to catalyst 6.2, it also solved alien arena's control lockup problem
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Wed Mar 01, 2006 7:50 pm

  • I had this same problem before I switched to SDL. My computer would make a terrible system beep noise when the controls would freeze, and that is not fun with earbuds. SDL handles input better for my system. So just switch to nexuiz-sdl.exe to solve the keyboard and mouse lockup problem.
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Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:30 pm

  • Cheers guys! I'll give it a go later and let you know if it all works ok now...

    Whats the difference between the versions though... If the SDL one is better why don't you just release that one?
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Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:58 pm

  • mechanicalnucleus wrote:Whats the difference between the versions though... If the SDL one is better why don't you just release that one?

    They just use different methods to access the hardware.. to be honest i do not know why both are released but the most plausible explaination is that if one fails the other one might work ;)
    But as Nexuiz 1.5 only ships the sdl version for mac and linux i would like to hear someone tell why we still ship both versions only for windows..
    Maybe because its very easy to compile the missing version on linux and mac. :)
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Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:36 am

  • esteel wrote:
    mechanicalnucleus wrote:Whats the difference between the versions though... If the SDL one is better why don't you just release that one?

    They just use different methods to access the hardware.. to be honest i do not know why both are released but the most plausible explaination is that if one fails the other one might work ;)
    But as Nexuiz 1.5 only ships the sdl version for mac and linux i would like to hear someone tell why we still ship both versions only for windows..
    Maybe because its very easy to compile the missing version on linux and mac. :)


    Nexuiz does ship with natives (glx) for linux. It does not for mac because the native mac support (agl) hasn't been finalized yet as I understand it.

    Why include both? For the fact that has already been mentioned, for some people one will work better than the other, but its never a constant. DarkPlaces itself it software designed to work with specific hardware technologies, so its native support may be limited. SDL is a very nice and versitale tool made to be compatible with as much hardware (and Operating Systems) as possible.

    It has been argued to go SDL-only, which may not be a terrible thing, but native support has been kept up for those 'just in case' scenarios.
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Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:07 am

  • Willis wrote:Nexuiz does ship with natives (glx) for linux. It does not for mac because the native mac support (agl) hasn't been finalized yet as I understand it.

    Well thats not totaly right Nexuiz 1.5 does ship only the sdl version for linux (and mac). Windows users get both versions. I just looked at the nexuiz-15.zip file.
    I think most linux user can compile the native version if they have problem with the other one so that should not be a problem.. ;)
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Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:10 am

  • Yes.. compilers are more accesible, at least in terms of knowledge and habit of the users in the Gnu/U*IX world than the windows world in general :)
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Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:09 am

  • just to mention re SDL: i only run sdl version on linux as the others cripple the sound performance.

    i had this problem just the once. only able to move left. no idea how it jumped back out again, i think after i got fragged. One off occurence for me, but definatley in linux using sdl.

    another wierd one is respawing layed on my side, or apparently half into the floor. can move around ok. again, frag seems to reset things ok.
    other gamer confirmed i looked all normal from his point of view.
    interesting but not frequent enough to upset gameplay.

    maybe drop the console down if it happens again and type kill to respawn yourself.

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Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:16 am

  • kern wrote:another wierd one is respawing layed on my side, or apparently half into the floor. can move around ok. again, frag seems to reset things ok.

    That's caused by an engine bug. When you're dead, the view will tilt, sometimes the server doesn't tell a client to reset the view on respawn.
    The same bug can cause bullets or tracers to be stuck in midair or (most annoying) let the client see pickups (strength e.g.) that are already gone...

    Luckily LordHavoc already fixed this in cvs so you won't have those problems anymore in the next release.
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Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:21 am

  • Are these bugs known/fixed?

    In CTF, if the flagbearer disconnects, the flag cannot be picked up or returned.

    Using Create Game, if you kick yourself, your server remains up until you reconnect to it.

    edit: removed links and condensed the information into this post, sorry about that.
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Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:45 am

  • Which bug? Your link doesn't work for me... (404)
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Fri Mar 03, 2006 5:48 am

  • Sorry. fixed.
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Fri Mar 03, 2006 6:58 am

  • Dave wrote:In CTF, if the flagbearer disconnects, the flag cannot be picked up or returned.

    That bug was still open, i just fixed it. Thanks :)

    Using Create Game, if you kick yourself, your server remains up until you reconnect to it.

    Yes, that one is still open, too... But it's not really critical :D
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