Upgrade to 2.4.2 !!!
Upgrade to 2.4.2 !!!
Upgrade to 2.4.2 !!!
Upgrade to 2.4.2 !!!
Upgrade to 2.4.2 !!!
Upgrade to 2.4.2 !!!
Upgrade to 2.4.2 !!!

Annoying yellow box reminder has appeared floating throughout the game.

Say it once say it clearly but don't float the box all over throughout the game..
Do a text insert reminder during map changes maybe but better for many will be your uploading to the Ubuntu repository and letting the user wait for the auto upgrade?

Oh btw
Upgrade to 2.4.2 !!!
Upgrade to 2.4.2 !!!
Upgrade to 2.4.2 !!!
Upgrade to 2.4.2 !!!
Upgrade to 2.4.2 !!!
Upgrade to 2.4.2 !!!
Upgrade to 2.4.2 !!!
Upgrade to 2.4.2 !!!

We did try a "regular" announcement before, but people didn't upgrade. On OpenArena, server admins don't even upgrade their SERVERS.

It is harsh, but it was necessary if you think you can do it better, do it.

Can you explain why it's important..

The impression is all versions are compatible. Obviously there are benefits in the newest shiniest version etc but unless it's a security upgrade, is it really that important?

Great game btw

Maybe you could have an auto upgrade.. auto downloaded like the maps do? Bounce onto a main server instead of the host etc.

We can't guarantee everything will work for old clients on new servers. In fact compatibility is broken every release in subtle or not so subtle ways. Old clients are a feature-stopper and a support-request generator. Clients should update. If the distributions don't provide new packages the users should take action on their own. In the past many users did simply ignore the "new version available" alert and saw the game falling apart later on.

best example is CSQC
2.4 supports CSQC, before 2.4 the clients would just crash

and CSQC just gives us an awful lot of new possibilities...
so...
I wish this upgrade message was in v2.3 already :S

I'm sure Microsoft would agree upgrades are important too (ducks)

Maybe just make the message less annoying.. the user could acknowledge it once at the start.. promise to upgrade and it could disappear until the next time?

I would think an in your face box on startup would be preferred over any in game annoyance.

I've got it loaded into /opt atm but looking at synaptic for Ubuntu, it's showing latest version available would be 2.4.1. Would that mean I'm still seeing this upgrade message if I did bother to now switch to the repository? - seems a bad idea for those on Ubuntu unless you have your own repository.

is there a way for server admins to deny someone access on the server unless they have a certain version number on their client? Perhaps with the message "This server requires version 2.x. Please upgrade."

I wouldn't care if people (in the know) could get around by by manually setting their client version number. This would be to help promote people who AREN'T in-the-know to upgrade.

Or maybe not a rejection. but a message displayed immediately when they connect which would tell them that they should upgrade. Then the message would go away after a few seconds. (EDIT: I mean like a custom message that the server admin could set, similar to MOTD)

Just throwing some ideas in the hat for future versions.

You can remove the notification by adding this to autoexec.cfg (if don't have that file create it in data folder):

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g_nexuizversion 2.4.2

That fools the menu (and servers) to think you are using the 2.4.2 version.

Thanks morfar
That works - once but it seems nexuiz refreshes the file and removes the line but it would be easy enough to script around.

Nexuiz makes changes to autoexec.cfg?
Hmm...I thought it only made changes to config.cfg.

Ah - you're right and I'm tired.
Adding to the config.cfg worked for once only!

I was half thinking about how maybe the autoexec will only be for Windoh$

I have a better idea: make it crash when it detects an old Nexuiz version and popup an error message explaining it. That way you couldn't play the game with an old client.

Lol, no, seriously now, Dokujisan's idea is good.

Actually, there have been serious security holes in the past that got fixed.

2.2.3 -> 2.3: a 2.3 or higher client has a cvar that makes it act as a "speedhack" on a 2.2.3 server (but that actually should just reduce the impact of packet loss)
2.4 -> 2.4.2: libpng had a remote code execution hole, and CSQC files in 2.4 are "viral" (a client that plays on a CSQC enabled server will download csprogs.dat, and if that one now starts a server, anyone connecting to him will get the "viral csprogs.dat" too)

That makes it a bit more necessary than you think to update...

Dokujisan wrote:Or maybe not a rejection. but a message displayed immediately when they connect which would tell them that they should upgrade. Then the message would go away after a few seconds.

Already exists... that was our first attempt at an update notification. Just got ignored.

Well it also is a good indicator of how many servers are slow to update their Nexuiz versions. I have seen the line: The server is running version 2.4, you are running version 2.4.2" a bit too often already. A lot of server admins were also very slow to update from 2.3 to 2.4. In fact I'm sure there are still a bunch of 2.3 servers now. And then you get the same nag message, only that you have a newer version than the server has... that reminds me, I still have to set g_nexuizversion to 18.5.1 on my server.

Anyhow, I am fine with the annoying update image spam. If it will get people to start looking around and update then it's working. But maybe it would be better to just having a red bar added at the top or bottom of the screen as a notifier, maybe with a url. And it will always be there, in menu's, during play, etc. Because it is more likely to not get people pissed off when it is not hovering all over the screen and yet still be annoying enough to get people to update.

"you are missing out on some cool new features, update your 2.x.x version to 2.4.2 now at www.nexuiz.com"

Or something like that. With bright colors.

UPGRADE ENCOURAGEMENT PROTIP:
Make old clients connect to the men's liberty server with the message "Nexuiz has detected that you dislike progress... you should feel at home here".

that is quite funny

On a side note, so is your signature image (picard spelling nexuiz). Did you make that?

PunkRabbit wrote:Anyhow, I am fine with the annoying update image spam. If it will get people to start looking around and update then it's working. But maybe it would be better to just having a red bar added at the top or bottom of the screen as a notifier, maybe with a url. And it will always be there, in menu's, during play, etc. Because it is more likely to not get people pissed off when it is not hovering all over the screen and yet still be annoying enough to get people to update.

We did think of that, but didn't find any fixed place on the screen that can without causing any problems be permanently "blocked". Like, bottom is owned by the HUD, top is owned by the chat messages... and the slowly moving one at least avoids the crosshair, and never permanently sits on anything else.

well, i want to play but the new version dont let me cos' everithing is invisible

plz remove that thing, soon

thx ^^

LOL reread the thread again to find out how to disable that message in 2.4... and people are looking into your 'real' problem anyway.. some patience young padawan