Level 27:Race:Racetrack - how do i get speed?

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  • I just can't manage to get the afforded time in Nexuiz 2.5 singleplayer level 27 to finish it.
    I read the document folder that comes with the nexuiz 2.5.zip that i have to have the jump button pressed before/while touching the ground to gain a bit of speed - ok doing this. I am using the laser to jump and in the air i get about 80km/h but as soon as i am touching the ground i am slowing down. I tried to run backwards and using the laser to push me forward while having the moveback button pressed but it did not really work as i don't see where i am going this way and i don't gain speed continously. Do i have to go over the pipes? Don't really think so...
    Another problem is that as far as following the docs i should only keep the forward button pressed while jumping (pressing the jump button before hitting the ground) but what should i do with the laser? I also tried the mortar which is found behind the first time starting of this map but i rather blow myself up than speed up.:) I tried shooting at the sidewalls to push me forward but it did not work.
    Also i can't stay on the "road" and touching the sides on this map means loosing speed as far as i found out. I read that i can control my movement in midair if i let the forward button go and am steering my jump with the side buttons but i still can't really stay on the track.
    My best time on level 27 was 41 seconds and i can't beat it so help is very appreciated.
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Mon Apr 27, 2009 5:56 pm

  • hm - i watched the video and he is really fast, but in the last part after the blue acceleration arrows he is falling off the map to the right before going through finish if i am not mistaken. *Edit: he pounced off the rock! I was wrong if i got it right now. I was as spectator flying through the map and this is the only explanation.
    Btw: In the video he has a red laser ( is this the laser?)
    How can i change the colours of the weapons?*
    Even i fell off some times after these misterious arrows that accelerate if you keep on jumping running over them.

    I never tried irc, because i don't know which program i should use that can be trusted and does not spoil my system. Windows alone is a problem sometimes ;)
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  • The guns take the color of you character.. you can change them in the Multiplayer/Player dialog. (lower left, hard to miss.. two colums of colors)
    OFC in team matches the guns are red/blue like the players regardless of your settings.

    Oh and he uses the mortar on that wall to fly back onto the track if you watch closely

    Which could also be what you wonder about.. if you back track at the start you will find a mortar a few meters behind you.. pick it up, the push might help a bit to get faster but its also more damage.. The time will only start when you cross the starting line, so do not worry about the time this takes.
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  • Thank you esteel!
    Which coloumn is for changing the color of what? Is there any description somewhere that i missed?

    Another thing: I tried to get the afforded time with the mortar and getting speed before the start/finish line but could not beat my all time best time of 41.1 :)
    Would be nice if someone who knows how to race would post a video or a link to a video with showpressedkeys on, which would help many noob players like me i think to get a grip of movement in nexuiz.
    Maybe some fine videos with showpressedkeys already exist so if someone could point me the way there.... thank you in advance.
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Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:16 am

  • esteel wrote:Try this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxaaKOkL-Y4

    Nice video!
    The magic thing seems to be the aircontrol. Also the angle of the laser seems to be important as i was catapulting myself always high up.
    Unfortunately it's very hard for me to let the forward button go, press a move sidewards button to keep on the track and press jump before i touch the ground again. I think when pressing forward and a move sideways button at the same time i am losing speed.
    This level is the hardest for me. It's difficult to get on the acceleration arrows near the finish most of the time when my time is ok so i am losing the chance to improve my time.
    Anyway i improved my time to 38.something now. :D
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Fri May 01, 2009 3:58 pm

  • Heh, I had to edit campaign.cfg to skip this level XD
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  • I've been working through the campaign and having got to this level, think the target is a little optimistic if this is supposed to be someones first ever exposure to race mode. I've clocked a 33.6 on it now which isn't far off but will seem very unrealistic for a new player. I would suggest raising it to perhaps 36.0 seconds as this can be done with the laser.

    My main problem with this level is actually that it's just not fun to play. I can't play it for more than about 5 minutes without getting bored as there is absolutely nothing pushing you to go faster. This is nothing to do with the map as that's OK with other players, it's the campaign level that's wrong. For the moment bots can't race which obviously is a major thing but also there's no music. This map needs music.
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  • The map has music, but only if you have the libmodplug library installed if you are on Linux.

    But as there was a legal problem with that music track, 2.5.1 again has ogg vorbis music on that track...
    1. Open Notepad
    2. Paste: ÿþMSMSMS
    3. Save
    4. Open the file in Notepad again

    You can vary the number of "MS", so you can clearly see it's MS which is causing it.
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Sat May 02, 2009 11:38 am

  • divVerent wrote:But as there was a legal problem with that music track, 2.5.1 again has ogg vorbis music on that track...

    Interesting because I'm running 2.5 + 2.5.1 patch and have no music on that map. I did check the .mapinfo files and noticed the change from the .xm file to cdtrack 7 but this isn't playing for some reason. Also there is a zero length dn-refueled.xm file in the patch. Is this supposed to be like this?

    edit: I've just done some further testing and with my setup only cdtracks 10-18 exist. Is this consistent with the full 2.5.1?
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  • No, but the patch does nothing that could break the other cd tracks.

    Try:

    cd loop brainsukker

    does that work?

    Then try:

    g_cdtracks_remaplist
    ls sound/cdtracks/*

    and post the output of it.
    1. Open Notepad
    2. Paste: ÿþMSMSMS
    3. Save
    4. Open the file in Notepad again

    You can vary the number of "MS", so you can clearly see it's MS which is causing it.
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Sat May 02, 2009 12:37 pm

  • The patch indeed has a bug.

    If you are on Linux or OS X, you can fix the pk3 by this command in a terminal:

    zip -d data/data20090501patch.pk3 sound/cdtracks/thru-the-mirror.ogg sound/cdtracks/subcities.ogg sound/cdtracks/neuronal-diving.ogg sound/cdtracks/infight.ogg sound/cdtracks/digital-pursuit.ogg sound/cdtracks/chaos-fog.ogg sound/cdtracks/calling-bogus.ogg sound/cdtracks/breakdown-easy.ogg sound/cdtracks/brainsukker.ogg

    The release zip does not have this issue.
    1. Open Notepad
    2. Paste: ÿþMSMSMS
    3. Save
    4. Open the file in Notepad again

    You can vary the number of "MS", so you can clearly see it's MS which is causing it.
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  • I worked this out too. Same thing fixed it for me.
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  • Hi,
    Could you explain for slowpokes how should player get a speed? I think a little howto for newbies will be useful ;) if i go forward I try to jump and then shoot down, i see only one-time acceleration and it really hurts =) it lets me shoot all my jumps so i always run out of health >_< If i go backward i don't feel any acceleration. Maybe i do smth wrong *scratch* but getting a 100 deaths per map became boring action which gives no playing experience.
    P.S. I saw videos and it's the only reason why i still haven't do an urpme nexuiz because i see that it's possible :) I hope that not only pro is able to pass this level.
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  • Hello and welcome - due to unfortunate recent developments most of the Nexuiz community has abandoned this forum (see viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6079). You might want to post your questions to the xonotic forum at www.xonotic.org, where most of the Nexuiz community can be found nowadays. For sure people will be able to help you there.

    As for getting speed I'd recommend the "Nexuiz in depth" youtube channel of our dear fellow GreEn'mArine (see this thread: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4717). Have a look at the last episodes (circle jumping and ramp jumping), they are very useful to understand how the physics of Nexuiz work.

    Also you need to keep bunny hopping if you want to gain speed, since every contact with solid surfaces (such as the floor) will slow you down. You can keep the "jump" key pressed all the time in order to jump immediately when you hit the ground.

    For quickly getting speed when standing it is also useful to shoot the laser against a nearby wall instead of the floor - and to keep jumping while doing that. Don't know if it is possible to do that in Level 27, though.
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