PC shuts down with Nexuiz

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Thu May 28, 2009 7:01 am

  • Hi everyone! I need help.

    When i run Nexuiz on my laptop, it run well... With nice graphics and it has very good performance... but after like 1minute (sometimes not even), the pc shuts down! i dont know why.

    This happens even if i just enter the game and dont play.
    Please help me. ty

    And yes... i have the graphics card drivers all installed and updated

    Ive got:
    -Linux Mint Felicia.
    -1.7GHz Intel Centrino
    -1GB ram DDR2
    -60GB HDD Sata
    -Ati Mobility Radeon X700 (wich should have 512mb Hypermemory, and in linux i only have 128mb)
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Thu May 28, 2009 8:57 am

  • Get better power supply.
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Thu May 28, 2009 9:33 am

  • Alien wrote:Get better power supply.


    What do you mean by power supply? :s
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Thu May 28, 2009 10:49 am

  • could be that something goes to warm..
    perhaps the cpu or graphic card .. cause of that the pc makes a shutdown..

    or your graphic card needs to much power, so you need a better power supply..
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Thu May 28, 2009 11:42 am

  • philbert wrote:could be that something goes to warm..
    perhaps the cpu or graphic card .. cause of that the pc makes a shutdown..

    or your graphic card needs to much power, so you need a better power supply..


    Wierd...

    How do i change that??
    I start hearing the pcs fan making noise, like "vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvfffffff" and then is turns off (maybe to prevent to burn):

    The same thing happens with the fire efects. If i put the whole desktop filled with the fire effect, it also shuts down...

    How can i change? With windows it never happened.

    Thx for the responses, and pls help me more ..... :)

    PS: dont forget its a laptop, so i cant change the power supply..
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Thu May 28, 2009 11:51 am

  • if you have an external monitor and the laptop is closed
    so it can be that fan doesnt get enough air
    because most laptops get their air through the keyboard...

    and what you can try too, is to remove dust out of the laptop
    by using a hoover or something
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Thu May 28, 2009 12:01 pm

  • philbert wrote:if you have an external monitor and the laptop is closed
    so it can be that fan doesnt get enough air
    because most laptops get their air through the keyboard...

    and what you can try too, is to remove dust out of the laptop
    by using a hoover or something


    i use laptop monitor. and like a month or so, i cleaned the whole laptop. Literally. I took every hardware device and cleaned them all. :S
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Thu May 28, 2009 12:06 pm

  • so I dont know,
    perhaps you look for errors with linux and your graphic card on
    several forums
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Thu May 28, 2009 12:11 pm

  • If this happens with the fire effect too, then I'd randomly guess that this is not a Nexuiz specific problem. :wink: In case you have no problems with that when running windows on that machine, then maybe the system configuration is corrupt in some way. Do you use a proprietary driver for your X700 or do you use the open source one?

    If a windows install would show the same behaviour, I would assume that there is a hardware defect (not that windows doesn't blow things up every now and then but two different operating systems showing this weird behaviour would count as an indication towards a hardware defect, imho).
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Thu May 28, 2009 12:25 pm

  • halogene wrote:If this happens with the fire effect too, then I'd randomly guess that this is not a Nexuiz specific problem. :wink: In case you have no problems with that when running windows on that machine, then maybe the system configuration is corrupt in some way. Do you use a proprietary driver for your X700 or do you use the open source one?

    If a windows install would show the same behaviour, I would assume that there is a hardware defect (not that windows doesn't blow things up every now and then but two different operating systems showing this weird behaviour would count as an indication towards a hardware defect, imho).


    i got it from the synaptics package manager thing... so i suppose its open source driver, right?
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Thu May 28, 2009 12:46 pm

  • Well I know that Ubuntu provides you with the option to install proprietary drivers, I do not know about Linux Mint. But maybe you just have to enable third party programs in your package manager? I'd do a search for ATI in your package manager, and be sure to search ALL available packages, not only supported ones or open source ones. Maybe someone who has installed Linux Mint can give you advanced tips on that.

    As far as I know, the performance of the proprietary drivers is better, but the openGL support of proprietary ATI drivers is troublesome. Nevertheless it's worth a try. Good luck!
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Thu May 28, 2009 12:50 pm

  • Ok. Thanks alot for your help.

    People. If anyone else has a suggestion, just say. :)
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Thu May 28, 2009 3:04 pm

  • Sh0cK69 wrote:
    Alien wrote:Get better power supply.


    What do you mean by power supply? :s


    It is clearly impossible and unnecessary to change the default power supply for laptops; I believe he simply read the specifications & topic title, and thought it was a desktop.

    Climate in the Northern Hemisphere is approaching summer temperatures, if your CPU heat-sink is the least bit clogged, an overheat is certain.
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Thu May 28, 2009 3:15 pm

  • Clearly a heat problem, I've had just the same problem with my laptop, it would even turn off when just using Skype video conferencing.

    What you can try is to get rid of dust. Dust can become a real problem, as it will prevent the usual air-flow. A laptop technician told me that the model I use (Lenovo laptop) usually get such problems after using it for one year without cleaning it. Try to hold the vacuum-cleaner at the parts when air gets sucked in (and the ones where air is blown out) to remove dust from there. If that still wasn't enough you might try to open the chassis (only open the screws that are big, as in "allowed to be opened also by non-professional people"), as it allows you to remove/clean the fan and remove dust from the heatpipes as well.
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Thu May 28, 2009 5:24 pm

  • Yes, sorry my mistake.

    Check out you syslog then.
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Thu May 28, 2009 5:32 pm

  • philbert wrote:and what you can try too, is to remove dust out of the laptop
    by using a hoover or something


    I would not recommend ever using a vacuum, it can cause electro-static discharge and damage your laptop.
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Fri May 29, 2009 9:26 am

  • Thanks for the responses guys... Uhmm...

    What i done was:

    Unmount the laptop.
    Clean the old thermal paste from processor. (It was kind of old and dry, and it had a different color....like...brown or someting.
    Then i put the nice new white Thermal Paste on the processor and cooler.
    Then, i put just a tiny bit on the graphics card thingy. ( :S )
    And i finallly mounted the laptop again.

    Now, sometimes I hear the fan working alot but my laptop doesnt shutdown.. =)

    So... I think problem solved.

    =)
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Fri May 29, 2009 7:25 pm

  • That's absolutely what I would have done too. Laptops are especially bad at this as they are more of a mass market piece of electronics than most of the PCs we're all used too. As they're mass market electronics, they're badly put together in factories full of people who don't particularly want to be there. Wouldn't be surprised to find no thermal paste at all or worse: the protective plastic film left on! They also get a bit of a hard time in use being thrown in bags, dropped by halfwits who work in airport security etc. and heatsinks can come lose if they've not been tightened up properly by which ever trade unionist it was who built it.

    Any laptop you get ever, reseat all heatsinks.
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Sun May 31, 2009 2:56 pm

  • Ed wrote:That's absolutely what I would have done too. Laptops are especially bad at this as they are more of a mass market piece of electronics than most of the PCs we're all used too. As they're mass market electronics, they're badly put together in factories full of people who don't particularly want to be there. Wouldn't be surprised to find no thermal paste at all or worse: the protective plastic film left on! They also get a bit of a hard time in use being thrown in bags, dropped by halfwits who work in airport security etc. and heatsinks can come lose if they've not been tightened up properly by which ever trade unionist it was who built it.

    Any laptop you get ever, reseat all heatsinks.


    Totally agree...
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