Iyo o/!

And here comes the final push. Now that Windows Vista is out, I bet Microsoft will stop everything that has to do with XP (they already called back all unsold copies when they released Vista). And everyone are now more or less focusing on Vista, mainly cause if they don't they won't last long on the market. So it will either be, "Get Vista or get lost" more or less. And I definitely am NOT gonna get that, unless I plan on just checking it out without using it to anything. I'm not gonna use and aps or play games with that. So I suppose I have no other choice than to go full time with Linux. I will be forced to learn everything about it sooner or later I guess.
Dell for instance don't sell XP computers anymore only Vista, they don't care if the software or the hardware works on it. They also recommend 2GB Ram for Vista and yet they sell computers with 512MB (they want to leach money out of poor customers).

Check this link: http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/p ... _cost.html

This is not Microsoft bashing nor a senseless rant, this is a paper written by a respectable IT Security professional who took to time to research and collaborate the truths behind these pains. Please go into this with an open mind and return well educated about what is happening.

So with this.. it's Hello Linux and goodbye Windows.
What are you people planning on doing?

EDIT: Link updated

Good idea. Vista sucks, end of story. I use win xp, but only rarely, and not connected to the internet (save a couple open ports for nexuiz and some other games). Mostly Mac OS for me though— I just like the low profile it takes, and it's stability/ security. But thats just me

If XP simply dies, although I cant imagine it will, considering many people still run win 2k, ill just ditch Microshaft altogether.

(Edit: this post is officially a Microsoft-bashing senseless rant)

M$ got to yer link first ai...

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Anyways, yeah its preddy mutch the same for me, tho it will proly be nessesary for me to bet and keep vista on some computer coz of work i already started migrating to Linux as my primary workstation os.

Edited the link, it should work now No MS dogs will prevent the word from spreading!

http://goodbye-microsoft.com/

I'll stick to Win XP for some more months until I'll upgrade my PC (regardless of Vista, mine is just old, and the moment has come where I usually update my machine, that is when the new CPUs are >2x faster than my current one, which is the case). When I upgraded my PC I'll check if all important programs do run WELL on Vista, if even one does not I'll stick to XP

Microsoft has garantueed the support (bugfixes. ... "service packs" ) until 2011 iirc, so no need to worry.

leileilol wrote:http://goodbye-microsoft.com/

Better still...

Interesting post - it reminds me of how I felt when they announced the end-of-life for Win98. When I moved over to linux, it was actually fairly straightforward - a little bit of a learning curve initially, but overall a little bit easier than Windows. Every time I shut down my work lappy (XP), it feels like such a relief! Basically the difference is freedom and control, with Windows, it runs your computer, but with linux, your computer runs it!

If you want to know how unimpressed with Vista I am, I submitted a couple of bugs during testing, and got one of the free licenses (all credit to MS for taking care of its testers). Not only have I not bothered to install, I neither know nor care if the offer is time-limited.

ms > all.

noo i dont work at ms denmark at all.

i really don't know what i would need windows for, except for gaming.
and nexuiz runs better on linux, so i don't care about vista

Bwahahaha... oh god.

"Get Vista or Hasta la vista!"
The only reason i'm running XP is cause it came with my Acer lappy and my linux (Xandros) didnt recognise the hardware correctly. Suse didnt work much better either. (hate that green cameleon anyway)

i had tried Vista and i liked the feel of it but i doubt the usability will improve anytime soon. It doesnt recognise specific hardware without updating from the internet... now think about that for a sec. Sound didnt work, webcam didnt work, antivirus didnt work, etc, etc, ... even after the 'update'.

i believe this is all a huge linux conspiracy afterall!

"hate" is a little strong, don't cha think?
It's a little chameleon

if you can run vista put beryl on that sucker and you're good to go

Also I'm only getting vista because A. I'm getting it free and B. I play ALOT of games. Yet nexuiz remains my favorite. Even over quake 4 and ET.

psychiccyberfreak wrote:Also I'm only getting vista because A. I'm getting it free and B. I play ALOT of games.

What's gaming performance like under Vista? I'd guess it's going to be slower across the board in RAM intensive areas just as more RAM is used. CPU and graphics shouldn't be much different so long as the graphics drivers for Vista are any good. If you want good gaming performance the best thing to do is run as stripped down an OS as possible. That's why Windows 2000 Pro is still the best OS for gaming.

I wish i could switch to linux, but all of the good art programs are on windows. If Photoshop, maya and Flash were to be ported to linux. Then I would switch in a heartbeat.

Not sure about Maya, but Photoshop CS2 and Flash MX can be used with WINE on Linux.

There is a native Linux version of Maya.

the only thing that's keeping me from mainly using linux is xfire. damn them.

What for do you need it?
If you 'just' need a server browser try XQF that a very fine server browser. It might be included in the knoppix livecd but i'm not sure.

Ivan wrote:I wish i could switch to linux, but all of the good art programs are on windows. If Photoshop, maya and Flash were to be ported to linux. Then I would switch in a heartbeat.

That sounds like me five years ago! Now when I have to use Windows, I have the opposite problem - all the decent media programs are on linux! If Kaffeine, Amarok and dvd::rip were to be ported to Windows....

As for a Nexuiz server browser, I just use:

http://delight.vapor.com/serverlist.php

Vista isn't even that great. They delay it forever then they still receive tons of problems. Take this for example. I was expecting Vista to pretty much "modernize" if you may, 64 bit. But I mean I don't see much commotion going on with Vista.

I watch the news all the time and there wasn't much of a comment at all about Vista. Many people I encounter had no idea Vista was out until a week later or so. Microsoft really messed up big time.

I was thinking that the downfall of Microsoft would occur when they start charging monthly fees for their operating system. (Judging where they were going it wouldn't be a surprise if they did.)

Now many months ago I tried Linux, and I say it was a good experience indeed. Alas I switched back to Windows because there were tons of games that weren't Linux compatible, even wine-wise. Now these days there are only three games I really play, Nexuiz, Lineage II, and Starcraft. Nexuiz, being Linux compatible. While Starcraft and Lineage II (c4) work well with wine.

well, I guess I'll look around for something like xfire for linux or something like that

For xfire chatting, use gfire - http://www.fryx.ch/xfire/ - a gaim plugin, which also ties into XQF for game tracking.
For microphone communication, teamspeak is available for linux.

Well I think he is talking about counting hours and such. Anyway Psychiccyberfreak I'll talk to you more about "Wine-ing" it on xfire.

Dave wrote:For xfire chatting, use gfire - http://www.fryx.ch/xfire/ - a gaim plugin, which also ties into XQF for game tracking.
For microphone communication, teamspeak is available for linux.

I do. wow I din't reallize that untill now lol