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Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:16 am

  • I'm hesitant to accuse people of cheating. However, something about the way the person nicknamed Lisa played made me think he or she was aimbotting. On the previous map, (mojoctf), Lisa killed me more than fifty times with Nex shots, without zooming in. :x :shock: Then again, this player may have just been very, very, good.

    http://www.momoshare.com/file.php?file=595a629e8f4af60c936c0cf3e101caca

    Take a look at this demo of me spectating "Lisa."
    What do you think?

    I think a broader, more relevant question is, how should one react if an opponent is cheating?
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Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:13 am

  • Not aimbotting.
    Aimbotters would be more accurate, with mechanical-looking movements. (Unless they toggle the bot or have a more complex bot that can disguise itself, and I wouldn't expect this if anyone did make an aimbot for Nexuiz)
    Also, this player's use of the laserjump and double-mortar combo show that they are experienced. Cheaters usually have poor understanding of techniques, and wouldn't do such things.
    About how to react if someone is cheating, just make a demo, and get their IP address from the "status" command, then report it to the server admin.
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Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:27 am

  • He/She might REALLY be use zooming by using a custom zoom script that changes FOV. Spectators will not see that that person is zooming then, although it does.

    I use that zooming-method too. I just had a look at the demo. The player is definetely not cheating.
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Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:36 am

  • I also do not think he/she was cheating..movement in general looks ok and aiming seems to fit to that.

    Though in 2.3 i think its more fun to use the buildin zoom again, just set cl_zoomspeed to -1 and choose a good cl_zoomfactor then its almost like the fov zoom script, except for a little lag. You can also change those values on the fly with setreport cl_zoomfactor xx
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Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:40 am

  • cmon.. you all know kojn gets a laugh of playing around withfake nicks? or was that morf.. XD
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Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:17 am

  • tChr wrote:cmon.. you all know kojn gets a laugh of playing around withfake nicks? or was that morf.. XD


    I'd say neither. That person was not good enough to be either of those two people. Unless it played like that on purpose, or just for fun not caring enough to put effort in it, which is NOT how morf and kojn usually plays. When they play they almost all the time play full out.
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Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:47 am

  • Then I gotta give that player some points for their sniping skills. :)
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Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:53 am

  • the one time i suspected aimbotting was about as follows:

    a player i never played before had remarkable nex aim. Thats fair enough, but the funny part is that on nexface, i hit a person in a fast run with nex at about 90 deg angle, thus pushing the runner far off cource. 2/10 sec later, this suspected aimbotter hit the same person in air, at insane speed, and just after being hit by me thus altering cource significantly.

    to calryfy_ both me and the suspected ab fired at the same person
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Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:14 pm

  • tChr wrote:cmon.. you all know kojn gets a laugh of playing around withfake nicks? or was that morf.. XD


    lol!
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Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:03 pm

  • tChr wrote:but the funny part is that on nexface, i hit a person in a fast run with nex at about 90 deg angle, thus pushing the runner far off cource. 2/10 sec later, this suspected aimbotter hit the same person in air, at insane speed, and just after being hit by me thus altering cource significantly.


    If I understood that right than it's not that big of a deal. I've seen it happen many times and even happened while it was me shooting. Sometimes it wasn't even the nex, I always thought it was latency, ping or something of that kind.
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Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:31 pm

  • Thats the one. Those are some sick snipes.
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Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:45 pm

  • torus wrote:Thats the one. Those are some sick snipes.


    Thanks... by the way... I use a script for zooming, but thinking of changing to normal zooming. And the name Lisa was just for fun. I'm not even a chick. (So please don't try to pick me up :)
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Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:51 pm

  • didn't i kick your ass like 8 months ago? I think I'm getting old..
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Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:59 pm

  • I need to practice more, instead of muddling about on the starcraft ladders. :oops: Alas, tis the summer so soon. :twisted:
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Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:08 pm

  • tChr wrote:didn't i kick your ass like 8 months ago? I think I'm getting old..


    If your talking about me... I think you usually kick my ass. :)
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Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:25 pm

  • Abaddon wrote:
    tChr wrote:didn't i kick your ass like 8 months ago? I think I'm getting old..

    If your talking about me... I think you usually kick my ass. :)

    hmm not sure about that any more.. especially now that nex is useless (in my hands at least) :)
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Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:29 am

  • GreEn`mArine wrote:Confusion powered by AntiLag™


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  • Urmel.dll wrote:
    GreEn`mArine wrote:Confusion powered by AntiLag™

    Cheerrs!! 8)

    Du you actuallyread forum before work urmel? Or is it the first thing you do at work?
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Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:35 am

  • tChr wrote:
    Urmel.dll wrote:
    GreEn`mArine wrote:Confusion powered by AntiLag™

    Cheerrs!! 8)

    Du you actuallyread forum before work urmel? Or is it the first thing you do at work?


    well, 8:30 is the time when I'm usually done with checking the mails and fixing the most urgent stuff that occured overnight. While you turn around in your layz bed for the second dreamphase, I'm already 2 hours on my feet, need to care about my second litre of coffee and read the news of coz :P
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