Someone randomly shown this to me. With no further comment to add, here it is:

IP Alliance says that encouraging free/open source makes you an enemy of the USA

The US-based International Intellectual Property Alliance has asked the US Trade Rep to add Indonesia to its list of rogue nations that don't respect copyright. What did Indonesia do to warrant inclusion on this "301 list"? Its government had the temerity to advise its ministries to give preference to free/open source software because it will cost less and reduce the use of pirated proprietary software in government. According to the IPA, this movement to reduce copyright infringement is actually bad for copyright, because "it fails to build respect for intellectual property rights and also limits the ability of government or public-sector customers (e.g., State-owned enterprise) to choose the best solutions."

This is like crack dealers campaigning against having a laugh with friends because happiness reduces the need for intoxicants. This is like... well, it's like a bunch of fat-cat scumbags behaving so shamefully that you want to smack them.

Let's forget that the statement ignores the fact that there are plenty of businesses built on the OSS model (RedHat, Wordpress, Canonical for starters). But beyond that, it seems astonishing to me that anyone should imply that simply recommending open source products - products that can be more easily tailored without infringing licensing rules - "undermines" anything.

In fact, IP enforcement is often even more strict in the open source community, and those who infringe licenses or fail to give appropriate credit are often pilloried.

If you're looking at this agog, you should be. It's ludicrous.

But the IIPA and USTR have form here: in recent years they have put Canada on the priority watchlist.

Wow, just wow. And please don't miss angusm's comment over there. Since it's too good not to quote:

angusm wrote:The idea that anything can or should be free is a pernicious falsehood that threatens to undermine our whole way of life. If we let people have software for free, soon they'll start believing that other things - air, water, sunlight etc. - should also be free. In the 1960s, we knew what to call that kind of thinking and we called it Communism. Then, as now, the only thing standing in the way of a Communist victory was our willingness to fight them on the battlefields of South-East Asia.

We at the IIPA recognize that not all those involved in the open-source movement are necessarily malicious, but they are nonetheless tampering with forces beyond their control and setting a terrible precedent.

Our motto: "Keeping you free by making sure that nothing else is."

Yep, that's from a human being on our planet alright. Some people are sadly lost, more than it can be expected until you actually see it...

The commenter is just being sarcastic. I have more to say on the topic, but right now I'm off to the supermarket to buy some air cans for the weekend...

All enemies of the USA will be destroyed by our earthquake machine.

http://www.examiner.com/x-32127-Toronto-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m1d23-Russian-Report-US-weapon-against-Iran-caused-Haiti-earthquake

Wow. That just made my country look even worse than it already did. There's a HUGE fucking difference between recommending open source applications over proprietary ones than illegally using proprietary applications. I wonder if Uncle Scam will actually add them to the list.

This is like... well, it's like a bunch of fat-shit corporate dick-wads fucking the world in the ass so much that you want to punch out their teeth and then cannonade them with a dozen 100-megajoule railguns.

Fixed.

Wow. The IIPA's statement in full:

http://www.iipa.com/rbc/2010/2010SPEC301INDONESIA.pdf

endorsing the use of open source software is one of three items they are objecting to - but nonetheless this is seriously sickening.

Yes, I read about this a few days back. I was disgusted. I just hope there's gonna be protests and stuff. Or else it might go downhill from here...

Guess by just posting here we're all getting added to the list too.

Disgusting indeed. It's what I call "the commercial mentality", when the idea of making money is not that it's necessary to survive and get stuff, but becomes an obsession mentality wise (which imo is the next step following the "I want more money and power for *me*" issue). I'm guessing that's the higher form of greed, as someone there commented.

parasti wrote:The commenter is just being sarcastic. I have more to say on the topic, but right now I'm off to the supermarket to buy some air cans for the weekend...

I think he meant it or at least the message behind it... it's not uncommon for many people in powerful companies (especially software). And yeah, I was going to buy myself a few rays of sunlight today, and pay a fine for illegally seeing a nice patented sunset.

Aleator wrote:Yes, I read about this a few days back. I was disgusted. I just hope there's gonna be protests and stuff. Or else it might go downhill from here...

Google, IBM, Nokia, Intel, Redhat + any other company using any of the open source standards (OpenGL for example), this includes Apple, Sony and other big names in the software industry. Also add the city of San Francisco and others. These are all big obstacles to overcome for someone who wants to get rid of Open Source or proclaim users of open source are the enemy of USA.

Good. All opensource peeps are pro-women's rights anyway.

If I could somehow get opensource licenses declared invalid, I'd probably do that too, as I've learned that just about all opensource peeps are pro-women's rights (and were happy when the geek feminists got my stuff deleted from sourceforge because I had anti-women's vote stuff in them) (some of you nexuiz peeps chimed in your support at one of the geekfeminist posts aswell).

You're also a bunch of fags that are somehow not attracted to young women. I guess it's a low testosterone level. Also your "ideal woman" seems to be a man with lady parts. I guess that makes sence.

Don't forget about Brazil and India amongst others.
Anyway, this have the same level of seriousness as when Microsoft said GPL was cancer, which later on in history cured itself somehow apparently...
Cant be easy to being a country not only be enemies with most big corps, but also loads of their own R&D companies that make stuff happen in the first place.

So don't pay any attention to this, other than if you are allowed to vote, then use what democracy you have, besides voting and make a difference for the next generation.
Bottom line is this shit is about someone having a psychosis and needs medical care.



Hey mikeeusa, so I heard you were leaving for good, don't like women sexually, turned communist, Buddhist and came out of your closet as in recognizing that you are gay))!
Its only idiots that think being gay)) is bad. Au contraire! As long as you are happy and don't make the world a worse place! Whatever floats your boat, live and let live! This is great, I hope you are a more happier person now! I hope you enjoy working with Microsoft and what not really tightly proprietary works and so forth. Send us a postcard five years from now. kthxbai.

1) I want young virgin pretty girl for wife.
2) It used to be possible for men like me to get this as females were married off right away once they were able to have children (early teens.)
3) YOU scumbags made this illegal. YOU support it being illegal.
4) Men like me are a powerless minority, we cannot change things.
5) I can't have what I want.
6) I must strive to drag you down too, God willing.

Fuck you you scumbag.
You made the best things in life a crime.
Bad men always liked nice young females to be their toys.
Men had that since the dawn of time untill... well the last 20 years really (wasn't outlawed in the south untill the late 1990s, wasn't outlawed in the third world untill the 2000s).

I only wish you ill because people like you took away what I want.
I hate you.
Everything bad that happens to one of you or your countries I cheer.
When the muslim terrorists kill some feminist-supporting piece of shit I'm happy.
When they put it on youtube, I just note that youtube uses javascript and flash which I don't like.

I hope the muslims out breed you.
Not because I like muslims.
But because I want YOUR culture GONE.
I want you DEAD. I want the people that apreciate and "allow" their men to have nice sweet young brides to over take the feminist culture that punishes men for taking such females as brides.

In the "west", youthful young women are wasted on highschool boys that don't know what to do with them. Older men commit suicide because of "age bracketing" and the fact that they can't get a nice young wife when they're older: their "best years" were "when they were young"... that shouldn't be the case for men (only for women who's worth is linked directly to prettyness (age) and how not-a-bitch they behave as). Once a man is in his 40s he thinks he is only allowed to get 40 year olds... many just kill themselves. They are barred from getting the nice young female who they want (who hasn't been around). In the good old days men could get a young virgin girl if they wished. You and people that believe as you do ended that in the west and have ended it in much of the rest of the world aswell.

Fuck YOU.
I PRAY that HELL exists and that you BURN in it soon.
Please die and be tortured for your support of women's rights.
Please die and be tortured for your support of women's rights.
Please die and be tortured for your support of women's rights.
Please die and be tortured for your support of women's rights.

Please be punished for the sake of all the men who have been imprisoned because they pursued young fertile females to have as their own.

PLEASE DIE.

When they put it on youtube, I just note that youtube uses javascript and flash which I don't like.

Thanks for putting the discussion back on topic!

Can't somebody put the banhammer down on Tundra yet? This is really ridiculous.

Oh that's fun... I wish them luck.... You can't silence what the internet wants to do though, so i'm not worried at all really.


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As for Mikee... We should be punished because you're a pedo and we don't like children getting hurt? Honestly you make no sense...

BTW you're wasting your time, hell doesn't exist.
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divVerent: Germany is looking better and better by the day, mind if I move there? ^_^

I think people need to realize this isn't some official agency, it's just a private org. Any idiot can form some organization and publish some agenda.

Ed wrote:Guess by just posting here we're all getting added to the list too.

The emoticon at the end is inappropriate.