I'd suggest an Antec NeoPower HE. It's a modular design with the cables being seperable from the main unit and it has the highest efficiency of any PSU. The bottom model is 430W and that would definitely be enough.

im getting a new PSU today...ive got a question in regards to my processor...
its a celeron 2.80 ghz 100/400fsb L1 8kb L2 128KB would that still be ok for games...as i heard people call it the celery because it isnt as good.?

phil55au wrote:im getting a new PSU today...ive got a question in regards to my processor...
its a celeron 2.80 ghz 100/400fsb L1 8kb L2 128KB would that still be ok for games...as i heard people call it the celery because it isnt as good.?

Well...... iz da shit if You ask me.

I think You get along with it in between don't you? But if you got the money or something, be sure to buy a rig with a real CPU next time

i bought a 600w psu today...i am still getting the same problem.....any help will be much appreciated...and my cpu is 2.8Ghz..when i bought it i thought it was a decent enough cpu...my cpu is 2.8ghz so for games and that, it is satisfactory for the requirements...i just do not get it...its impossible to get a cpu socket 478 with a L2 512kb max which my mobo handles and 800FSB,P4-s800mx,i am really disgusted...of my computers performance...the speed is fine...just because it is a celeron does not mean that it is a piece of poo...processor's a processor..then again the requirements for games do not say intel celeron,they say intel pentium......so would that be why?

Do you still get those strange reading with that program?

Well, the celeron is fine for jobs like office, internet, that kinda stuff where the CPU doesnt have to calculate too much.

When doing things like image editing, video editing, sound editing, CAD, CAM and everything else where the CPU has to do many calculations (and that's what many games also require), the lack of second level cache is getting obvious. second level cache is a kinda RAM as well, the fastest one, and expensive. This is the reason why Pentiums are more xpensive than celerons. The only reason why celerons exist is they are cheaper.

For that, no gaming rig would be built up with a celeron generally.

Right.. but the Celeron should be ok for Nexuiz. Nexuiz is not very demanding on the CPU..

esteel wrote:Right.. but the Celeron should be ok for Nexuiz. Nexuiz is not very demanding on the CPU..

Sure it's okay for Nexuiz. Although I have to say there are many with celerons who complain about bad performance in association with more players.

Another funny and amazing thing is:
In extreme cases a very strong VGA (GPU and/or big RAM) can sometimes slow down the performance when it demands too much data from the CPU or/and the chipset of the mainboard (did I express that right now?). Everything in a computer has to run in a harmonic way, that's the art of the right PC architecture and the secret of really fast Computers.

Generally the chipset's and mainboard's performance is an underestimated point when talking about performance.

Is this performance consistent across OS's? Download Knoppiz games edition DVD, burn to DVD, boot it up, install the nVIDIA drivers for it using the built in wizard, then run the included version of Nexuiz and see what happens. Does the performance match?

hello again..got a psu ,games stil run slow but the main problem i think is what is causing the games to be slow might be this: please help me out with this..


i open a window of any app say-explorer,firefox,notepad etc any application..
when i hold the mouse on the applications window and move the applications window around on my screen,the cpu usage jumps to 100% and stays there...then i stop it moving it around the cpu usage drops to normal...this is wierd because it is only like 2d...so my 3d games obviously are running slow because of this ''bug'' or whatever i have...i have scanned for everything using every utility for viruses,malware,spyware etc..installed windows,,latest drivers...what do i do ...once i solve this issue games should/will run swiftly...
PLEASE HELP ME IN ANY WAY YOU CAN...

thankyou very much ='(

if i remember correctly this is normal for windows.
perhaps you should test with some benchmark tools to see if performance for each subsystem is in the expected range.

this is definitely a time consuming approach but you should be able to track down, which subsystem of the pc is responsible for the bad performance.

so benchmarks for
- cpu
- memory subsystem
- harddisk
- gpu

could be tested seperately.
As to where to get those benchmark tools i don't really have an answer. i do most things under linux...
anyway you need some reference benchmarks to see if you get "normal" performance or not.
on http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu.html you can get data for cpu , elsewhere on the site gpu. They should have also links to the benchmarks they used.

ah, and did you try and check the bios settings for memory speed. there should be something like "auto". perhaps even try to reset bios to defaults? (second opinions anyone) which at least shouldn't be completly bad.

i hope that helps

disable system recovery on all drives

could you test your voltages again ? Since you've got a new PSU they should be normal again. And as already mentioned, try to get a program that can present results separately for cpu and gpu

phil55au wrote:hello again..got a psu ,games stil run slow but the main problem i think is what is causing the games to be slow might be this: please help me out with this..

i open a window of any app say-explorer,firefox,notepad etc any application..
when i hold the mouse on the applications window and move the applications window around on my screen,the cpu usage jumps to 100% and stays there...then i stop it moving it around the cpu usage drops to normal...this is wierd because it is only like 2d...so my 3d games obviously are running slow because of this ''bug'' or whatever i have...i have scanned for everything using every utility for viruses,malware,spyware etc..installed windows,,latest drivers...what do i do ...once i solve this issue games should/will run swiftly...
PLEASE HELP ME IN ANY WAY YOU CAN...

thankyou very much ='(

Almost certainly this is absolutely nothing to do with your psu or any other piece of hardware. Almost certainly the problem is your operating system or, rather, some driver or other that's buggered up. You can't rely on the cpu usage thingie in windows. It doesn't provide enough information.

Download a copy of procexp from http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/P ... lorer.html and have a look at what's doing what. You'll probably have to trawl around the internet for a while once if you find anything that's eating your processor time. Don't forget that if you HAVE got a virus, worm, whatever, it will nobble your anti-virus before it does anything else so you can't rely on that anyway.

There's a load of other interesting stuff at the sysinternals website and it's the sort of software I like... FREE!!!

I notice you've got bad sectors on your hard disk. That's pretty unusual for modern drives and it might be that the controller is having problems 'paging' data onto disk during normal operation. This will slow it down drastically. Might be a squiffy controller but, again, that's unlikely.

Have you got another hard disk you could try in the machine. It only need be 4Gb for testing purposes just to put XP and the drivers on it.

Alternatively I'd download a copy of GParted or similar and divide one of your hard disk into 2 partitions. I haven't used GP'ed for a while and I can't remember if it also handles boot menus but there are other things out there as boot managers such as OSL2000. They can all be downloaded from http://www.download.com

However. beware!!! Once installed you have to know how to reinstall your master boot record, (MBR), after you put your partition back to it's original size and take them off again. Actually, it's pretty simple. Have a look at the MS website... that'll tell you how to do it but you'll need the administrator password so make sure you've got that before starting anything. Also have a look at this article if you have any problems:-

http://support.microsoft.com/default.as ... -US;308402

Ah, the joys of Microsoft, eh! LOL

Assuming you've got the admin password, (and you can try this BEFORE you do anything, don't forget), and are sure you're comfortable with partitioning software then an extra partition of about 2-3Gb ought to do it for these purposes. Install windows onto the second partition and load the drivers from the original disks and see what happens when moving a screen around then.

Regarding the drive... Frankly, in my experience 200 watts is sufficient to run two drives where most of the load will be used during the start-up and, in any case, you've already changed that so that can't be the problem.

dweep wrote:perhaps even try to reset bios to defaults? (second opinions anyone) which at least shouldn't be completly bad.

Some motherboards default to lower speeds for the cpu speed so it might reduce his cpu to a core speed 30+% slower than it can actually handle. Should work but, like I say above, I doubt it's a hardware problem anyway.

phil55au wrote:hello again..got a psu ,games stil run slow but the main problem i think is what is causing the games to be slow might be this: please help me out with this..


i open a window of any app say-explorer,firefox,notepad etc any application..
when i hold the mouse on the applications window and move the applications window around on my screen,the cpu usage jumps to 100% and stays there...then i stop it moving it around the cpu usage drops to normal...this is wierd because it is only like 2d...so my 3d games obviously are running slow because of this ''bug'' or whatever i have...i have scanned for everything using every utility for viruses,malware,spyware etc..installed windows,,latest drivers...what do i do ...once i solve this issue games should/will run swiftly...
PLEASE HELP ME IN ANY WAY YOU CAN...

thankyou very much ='(

Ok first of all, how do you define "bad preformace" ? try enablening the fps display in nexuiz (effects menu) and see what it says. Secondly, moving a window should not require 100% cpu load, theres something strange abt that (my cpu load goes to abt 10% from moving a window), what OS?

Another thing to try is a clean install of everything, if you have a spare hdd to try that on or feel confy formating your current one. just make sure you have all drivers needed to get the system running on a cd before you start.

phil55au wrote:Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\cmaudio.sys (5.12.01.0639, 370.83 KB (379,726 bytes), 25/06/2006 8:51 PM)

Should answer one of yours quiestions

Urmel... wrote:

phil55au wrote:Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\cmaudio.sys (5.12.01.0639, 370.83 KB (379,726 bytes), 25/06/2006 8:51 PM)

Should answer one of yours quiestions

Is there some particular problem with the cmaudio driver?

old_codger wrote:

Urmel... wrote:

phil55au wrote:Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\cmaudio.sys (5.12.01.0639, 370.83 KB (379,726 bytes), 25/06/2006 8:51 PM)

Should answer one of yours quiestions

Is there some particular problem with the cmaudio driver?

nope. just wanted to show up which OS phil55au uses.