hello,i need help in regards to getting more fps in games for example when i play the game''C&C renegade/everyother game to, ,im only getting 20-35fps on average..first i will start with my specs...

Intel Celeron 2.80Ghz (socket 478) FC-PGA2 , L1 8kb L2 128KB
120GB maxtor 7200rpm(296kb bad sectors)
40GB seagate 7200rpm
DVD drive
CD drive
1024 PC3200 DDR RAM (400mhz)
Nvidia Geforce 6600GT (AGP 8x) all drivers are updated.
Nvidia settings are as follows
antialising:OFF
antistropic:OFF
image settings:HIGH PERFORMANCE
vsync:OFF
my power supply is 200w,im not too sure if thats got anything to do with it.
what i dont see is for all the games i buy the requirements are way beyond my cpu but they show really slow performance.
i have done a fresh install of xp,installed drivers and and the same performance issues..
do not know what to do...
if you can help me in anyway , that would be much appreciated...


Thanks in advanced

My first advise: Update your graphics drivers.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_91.31.html

Edit: Oups, you already updated...never mind.

Can you post a screenshot of your hardware control panel (the list with all hardware listed)?

Oh, and please check the temperatures of your CPU. If it got too hot the CPU will throttle its clock to not overheat.

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hmm, are you sure the output of your power supply is only 200W ???
imo its nearly impossible to even start a computer with your hardware config and such low power ....

Daedalus wrote:hmm, are you sure the output of your power supply is only 200W ???
imo its nearly impossible to even start a computer with your hardware config and such low power ....

yes my power supply is 200w as i have seen it on the UPS itself =)

thats *very* weird. recommended power supply for the Nvidia Geforce 6600GT is a 'minimum' of 300W. even though its possible for the celeron to work, i don't believe it might have no impact on your system to run with this low power. on the other hand i believe it wouldn't even start up or at least produce some random shutdowns...
your system seems ok, but just for testing purpose i would loan a better power supply somewhere and try it

Graphics driver:

Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\nv4_mini.sys (6.14.10.7777, 3.05 MB (3,198,368 bytes), 30/08/2005 2:04 AM)


About a year old...

Sure you updated your video driver?

yes i have updated it to the latest driver version that is compatible with the latest winfox software..in which i emailed a support query to leadtek and thats what they said...and on there site has that version...so i have updated the graphics card....but im do not know if i should be installing the latest drivers for the geforce 6600GT from nvidia because my hardware is not the ''NVIDIA GEFORCE 6600GT'' its the ''winfast A6600GT''
...

please help any way you can thanks.

leadtech just uses the nvidia chip on their graphic card.. so you should be able to install the nvidia drivers. Those are a lot newer and hopefully work better. But i guess its a good idea to keep your older driver handy just in case

Daedalus wrote:thats *very* weird. recommended power supply for the Nvidia Geforce 6600GT is a 'minimum' of 300W. even though its possible for the celeron to work, i don't believe it might have no impact on your system to run with this low power. on the other hand i believe it wouldn't even start up or at least produce some random shutdowns...
your system seems ok, but just for testing purpose i would loan a better power supply somewhere and try it

that is %100 correct that it needs 300w minimum, i find it very wierd that it works...but i see your point...when windows is botting up it just shows a blank screen for a while...then boots to windows...but the when it says welcome on the blue screen it has jaggy edges....but the video card works....all drivers installed...agp 8x...i have a 3.3v agp slot so i do not see what the problem is....the processor on the other hand as i read on issues in relation to this sort of thing said that the celeron isnt very good for games...but its 2800mhz...my mobo stays at 43degrees my cpu stays at 41degrees when im playing games etc,and my cpu usage stays at 85-100 when i play games and 2percent when im doing nothing.i have used a benchmark one time called''pc wizard''most of the benchmarking seemed ok except for the memory bandwidth which said 0MB bandwidth yet my computer uses the ram in apps..and recognises it...but one slot of ram in generic..would that have anything to do with it? its wierd to..that when i do dxdiag and run 3d test i get 999 fps

Regarding the low power PSU: It is indeed *very* low with a 200w psu, but not impossible to make it work. Afaik all 6600gt agp cards need extra power from a aditional power from a molex power connector. Are you sure this is plugged it? I use a 6600gt myself, and if i forget to plug in the power connector i get a message from the drivers as soon as i start the comuter that the gpu is operating in low power mode, due to the lack of power.

Another thig that comes to mind: the powerlevel may be enougth during idle operation but not enougth during maximum load. This may be why it seems to work, but never get any real preformace.

Also make sure you chipset drivers are correctly installed. When uppgtading you vga drivers you should always deinstall the old one first. If you dont do this the uppgrade may not be 100% compleate.

And upgrade the PSU...
Even if it's connected to the Card you will never get the performance you need....
200W are DEFINATELY not enough.

I run my 6600GT fine on a 250W. That is in a Shuttle though so everything else is pretty low. I had previously run an FX5900 on a 200W which if anything is a lot worse. It depends upon the quality of the PSU too. Unless your machine is an SFF machine with a bespoke (expensive) PSU it'll be easy to get a bigger one. To test it, download Speedfan and see what the voltages it reports are like. If they're miles off (ie, +12V at only 10.x V) then it's defintely the PSU.

Celeron: 60W
6600GT: 60W
2xHDD: 25W
2xCD: 10W
RAM: 5W
Motherboard: 20W
Floppy: 5 Watt

That's 205W. Something won't run correctly from a 200W. But something like an Antec Neopower HE. They're the most effecient power supplies.

tZork wrote:Regarding the low power PSU: It is indeed *very* low with a 200w psu, but not impossible to make it work. Afaik all 6600gt agp cards need extra power from a aditional power from a molex power connector. Are you sure this is plugged it? I use a 6600gt myself, and if i forget to plug in the power connector i get a message from the drivers as soon as i start the comuter that the gpu is operating in low power mode, due to the lack of power.

Another thig that comes to mind: the powerlevel may be enougth during idle operation but not enougth during maximum load. This may be why it seems to work, but never get any real preformace.

Also make sure you chipset drivers are correctly installed. When uppgtading you vga drivers you should always deinstall the old one first. If you dont do this the uppgrade may not be 100% compleate.

i do not get any errors what so ever...nor i do know how to put my pc together =) and reinstall the old drivers blah blah and know all that stuff already i just need help with the performance....its very slow...yeah thats a good point actually....i guess i need to buy a new psu..if i get a 400-450w would that be enough power?

Ed wrote:I run my 6600GT fine on a 250W. That is in a Shuttle though so everything else is pretty low. I had previously run an FX5900 on a 200W which if anything is a lot worse. It depends upon the quality of the PSU too. Unless your machine is an SFF machine with a bespoke (expensive) PSU it'll be easy to get a bigger one. To test it, download Speedfan and see what the voltages it reports are like. If they're miles off (ie, +12V at only 10.x V) then it's defintely the PSU.

Celeron: 60W
6600GT: 60W
2xHDD: 25W
2xCD: 10W
RAM: 5W
Motherboard: 20W
Floppy: 5 Watt


That's 205W. Something won't run correctly from a 200W. But something like an Antec Neopower HE. They're the most effecient power supplies.

ok im downloading the utility now and i will post the results...and also i disconnected the floppy so i gain an extra 5W which makes it 200w even...

ok here are the results

vcore: 1.492-1.589V
+3.3v: 3.31V
+5.0v: 4.92V
+12v: 11.25
-12v: -5.45v
-5v: 0.73v
+5VSB: 5.59v
VBAT: 0.16v

temp1,temp2,local temp,,remote temp,HD0,HD1 keeps changing to blue down arrow and a green tick does that mean anything?

phil55au wrote:-12v: -5.45v
-5v: 0.73v

*ouch!*
If those values are correct, you should better get a stronger psu, your current one might burn soon...

KadaverJack wrote:

phil55au wrote:-12v: -5.45v
-5v: 0.73v

*ouch!*
If those values are correct, you should better get a stronger psu, you current one might burn soon...

really?wow...i never knew that....my psu now wont damage my mobo or any components inside if i leave it in there until i get a new psu? now im worried

phil55au wrote:vcore: 1.492-1.589V
+3.3v: 3.31V
+5.0v: 4.92V
+12v: 11.25

These are all good

phil55au wrote:-12v: -5.45v
-5v: 0.73v

These mean when your PSU should produve -12V, it produces -5.45 and when it should produce -5V it produces 0.73V!

These values are insane. If this was my computer I would turn it off immediatly, and not turn it on until i got a new power. It is a miracle that your hardware is sill working (if it hasent taken a beating allready), and its almost as miracolous that your PSU has not burned, litererally. Also this annot be a new PSU, as no new PSUs produce only 200W, unless this is a barebone, or very small computer (like a shuttle) also a new power would shut it self down you you made it go through this.

This is not to scare you, its ment as an imminent piece of advice, but please know that what I'm saying is true.

My computer is less power consuming than yours, yet i use 400W power, and would not do any less, i have a computer with 8 HDs and nothing more, that i got a 700W power for.

If you have to use your computer, disconnect _everything_ you dont abseloutly ned, like the secondary hard drive, the DVD driver, and I would consider putting in a much weaker screencard until I got a new PSU.

Also remember, allthough this is getting technical, that you cannot just add all the power consumption of the devices together and assume that if they are less than the PSU staded max, that it will work OK. there are such things as start-up power consumption for the devices and so on. You also are using a switch-mode power spupply (all PC powers are) and its active effect is different from the reactive effect, especially if you have an unstable power connection to your house. (wich i dont think you have, since your PC is still running)

please get a new power

Edit:
I dont think you have harmed anything yet, but you might, if you keep this up.

wow,..i never knew that jeese..thats bad...i have an ATX ..after finding that info out...im asking myself the same question of how i could get it working...suppose my knowledge is doing me good...but with what you told me...what do u mean that the PSU will ''burn''?
you aint scaring me lol cuz ive been running my comp like this for 2 years.upgrading since.
oh and i have also tried what you said...few weeks back...i just connect the video card,
1HDD 1 DVD-rom drive d/c the 1 fan,but still no luck...vice versa with just the video card and HDD..stil lthe same prob...

phil55au wrote:wow,..i never knew that jeese..thats bad...i have an ATX ..after finding that info out...im asking myself the same question of how i could get it working...suppose my knowledge is doing me good...but with what you told me...what do u mean that the PSU will ''burn''?

I mean literally.. catch fire, make smoke and flames, and burn. Dont leave it unattended. You are pushing it to its limits Its like driving a car at 240km/h over a long period of time.. the car might very well be made to run at 240kmk/h, but after a while, it will tear hard on it and it will get pretty hot...

as I said.. if you can get the power consumporoin down some way.. to say around 140-160W or so, that is much much better.

edit:
I'd start with disconnecting the CD drive, then the 40GB disk, then possibly the DVD drive. and if needed, clock down the CPU some.

edit2:

and oenthier thing:
Make sure your fans are running properly

tChr wrote:

phil55au wrote:wow,..i never knew that jeese..thats bad...i have an ATX ..after finding that info out...im asking myself the same question of how i could get it working...suppose my knowledge is doing me good...but with what you told me...what do u mean that the PSU will ''burn''?

I mean literally.. catch fire, make smoke and flames, and burn. Dont leave it unattended. You are pushing it to its limits Its like driving a car at 240km/h over a long period of time.. the car might very well be made to run at 240kmk/h, but after a while, it will tear hard on it and it will get pretty hot...

as I said.. if you can get the power consumporoin down some way.. to say around 140-160W or so, that is much much better.

edit:
I'd start with disconnecting the CD drive, then the 40GB disk, then possibly the DVD drive. and if needed, clock down the CPU some.

edit2:

and oenthier thing:
Make sure your fans are running properly

ok i will do that now...my fans run fine....i will try again and post if i succeedeed or not

i did it again...but it wont boot up my hard drive unless i connect all power cable to evrything in my system...very wierd

phil55au wrote:i did it again...but it wont boot up my hard drive unless i connect all power cable to evrything in my system...very wierd

That is probably because your primary hard drive is a western digital and the jumper is set to "master". check if your disk differentiates between master and single/standalone.

tChr wrote:

phil55au wrote:i did it again...but it wont boot up my hard drive unless i connect all power cable to evrything in my system...very wierd

That is probably because your primary hard drive is a western digital and the jumper is set to "master". check if your disk differentiates between master and single/standalone.

my HDD is not a western digital it is a MAXTOR and the jumper is set to master

phil55au wrote:

tChr wrote:

phil55au wrote:i did it again...but it wont boot up my hard drive unless i connect all power cable to evrything in my system...very wierd

That is probably because your primary hard drive is a western digital and the jumper is set to "master". check if your disk differentiates between master and single/standalone.

my HDD is not a western digital it is a MAXTOR and the jumper is set to master

master it not the same as "single" in some cases. I dont remember what maxtor do : dont use maxtor drives. But check if there is any seting called "single" or whatever, there should be a pin-scematic on the drive somewhere..

tChr wrote:

phil55au wrote:

tChr wrote:

phil55au wrote:i did it again...but it wont boot up my hard drive unless i connect all power cable to evrything in my system...very wierd

That is probably because your primary hard drive is a western digital and the jumper is set to "master". check if your disk differentiates between master and single/standalone.

my HDD is not a western digital it is a MAXTOR and the jumper is set to master

master it not the same as "single" in some cases. I dont remember what maxtor do : dont use maxtor drives. But check if there is any seting called "single" or whatever, there should be a pin-scematic on the drive somewhere..

there is only master jumper which i selected...cable select,and slave,also im going to upgarde my psu.so would any psu i buy fit inside my mini ATX tower?

Yes, if it isn't a special rig (like a barebone or stuff like that). It must be ATX 2.0 compatible, and don't take the cheapest one. If you choose a better brand, 350 or 380W will suffice IMO.

Urmel... wrote:Yes, if it isn't a special rig (like a barebone or stuff like that). It must be ATX 2.0 compatible, and don't take the cheapest one. If you choose a better brand, 350 or 380W will suffice IMO.

I run a hungrier machine on a 350w w/o problems, but tahts a good psu - one thats rated for 350w constant load. some cheap ones are maked as 350w but only for peek effect, stay clear of thise

As for the hdd. some drives need to have all jumpers removed for single drive operation. there should be a label on it telling ya how to set the jumpers for diffrent configs (usualy on the topside of the drive)

tZork wrote:

Urmel... wrote:Yes, if it isn't a special rig (like a barebone or stuff like that). It must be ATX 2.0 compatible, and don't take the cheapest one. If you choose a better brand, 350 or 380W will suffice IMO.

I run a hungrier machine on a 350w w/o problems, but tahts a good psu - one thats rated for 350w constant load. some cheap ones are maked as 350w but only for peek effect, stay clear of thise

As for the hdd. some drives need to have all jumpers removed for single drive operation. there should be a label on it telling ya how to set the jumpers for diffrent configs (usualy on the topside of the drive)

..i removed the jumper but still no operation succesful with just the hdd itself and the video card..so from info i gathered i will be needing a 450 watt psu ....a good brand in which i will ask the sales representive for....as now i use a FSP200-60atv so im looking to get the same sort of thing....seeing my computer is running at 200w...which is a miracle really from what ived heard.....i will be getting a new PSU hopefully next monday...so i will post and tell you if that solved the problem...
i thank all people for helping me with this problem....i much appreciate it...

kind regards to all the people that helped me ,
phil5555au,
P.S(i will post round around next week,when i have installed my new PSU...)
thanks again