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Please do not use this map. There are much better Deck16 ports/adaptations available.
Search this forum for a bit.. I leave the download link up since i hate broken download links

This map will not be developed any further by me and thus the version/release level will always stay at v1r1..

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Ok,

following the old tradition of releasing buggy, unfinished, first-time maps, i bring you

deckdich_v1r1

Inspired by an old UT99 map, which is probably obvious from the screenshots.








Download here:

http://tapas.affenbande.org/maps/deckdich/deckdich_v1r1.pk3

I post this mainly to get some feedback on how to fix some of the obvious bugs. And also i would like to know what generally sucks about this map. If, contrary to my belief, anyone has the feeling this map could be fun in the end, that would be quite a treat..

So see you around,
lda17h

lda17h wrote:Ok,
following the old tradition of releasing buggy, unfinished, first-time maps, i bring you

I should maybe mention that this has been done from memory and in ca. 12h time So bear with me

isn't the map in nexuiz ?

Mirio wrote:isn't the map in nexuiz ?

huh what do you mean?

One of my first maps was the exact same place

Hahah yes it's been done before... I've seen such a map in nexuiz already!

Hehe... nice map.. for a first one

There are just so many problems, I don't even start to mention them (you probably already know them by yourself).
What I'd definately do: leave this map for now, start mapping some smaller ones, learning the basics (and _proper packaging_), and after that, continue mapping this one.

Keep it up!

Nice. Could you add more detail so it's more like the original though?
More boxen. Also there are misc_laser s now.

So if
misc_laser has:
target bla1
dmg 10000

and you have a
target_position
targetname bla1

It can be like the energy thing in the original where the rocketlauncher was.

Revenant wrote:One of my first maps was the exact same place

That was probably revdm5? I saw it and it's cool, but it lacked a certain kind of "deckness" which i was looking for.. I guess what made deck16][ deck16][ is different for everyone though

tundramagi wrote:Nice. Could you add more detail so it's more like the original though?
More boxen. Also there are misc_laser s now.

So if
misc_laser has:
target bla1
dmg 10000

and you have a
target_position
targetname bla1

It can be like the energy thing in the original where the rocketlauncher was.

Could you elaborate on this? I am not positive that i understood what misc_laser does. And IIRC dm-deck16][ had two rocket launchers. One at the bottom before the teleport and one in the room alongside the main room.

C.Brutail wrote:Hehe... nice map.. for a first one

Thanks

There are just so many problems, I don't even start to mention them (you probably already know them by yourself).

Probably not I am aware of problems with the lighting.. It definitely lacks style in many places and basically is very plain at the moment.. Please shoot. Even a very short list of problems without deeper explanation would be cool, just so that I'm aware of the terms and can google my way to resolve them...

C.Brutail wrote:Hehe... nice map.. for a first one

What I'd definately do: leave this map for now, start mapping some smaller ones, learning the basics (and _proper packaging_), and after that, continue mapping this one.

Keep it up!

Ok, about the proper packaging: I read some posts here and some tutorials. I don't quite understand what's missing/wrong..

lda17h wrote:

tundramagi wrote:Nice. Could you add more detail so it's more like the original though?
More boxen. Also there are misc_laser s now.

So if
misc_laser has:
target bla1
dmg 10000

and you have a
target_position
targetname bla1

It can be like the energy thing in the original where the rocketlauncher was.

Could you elaborate on this? I am not positive that i understood what misc_laser does. And IIRC dm-deck16][ had two rocket launchers. One at the bottom before the teleport and one in the room alongside the main room.

Look it up. It makes a laser.

In the original deck 16, where the teleporter is, was a death beam.

lda17h wrote:Ok,

following the old tradition of releasing buggy, unfinished, first-time maps, i bring you

deckdich_v1r1

lda17h

Ah, i should have followed the advice not to release the first map So, is there a way to remove this post from the forum?

Could do that, especially as this map is wasting a good map name...

a map called 'deckdich' should have the 'Tischlein deck dich' theme, like, a miniman-style map with a table and lots of stuff to eat on it.

But what once has been posted, cannot be erased. Some people already have your map on their mirror, or in dlcache.

tundramagi wrote:

lda17h wrote:

tundramagi wrote:Nice. Could you add more detail so it's more like the original though?
More boxen. Also there are misc_laser s now.

So if
misc_laser has:
target bla1
dmg 10000

and you have a
target_position
targetname bla1

It can be like the energy thing in the original where the rocketlauncher was.

Could you elaborate on this? I am not positive that i understood what misc_laser does. And IIRC dm-deck16][ had two rocket launchers. One at the bottom before the teleport and one in the room alongside the main room.

Look it up. It makes a laser.

In the original deck 16, where the teleporter is, was a death beam.

In an attempt to try to sound like a know it all I will share this information about the Deck maps:

The original Deck 16 in Unreal (NOT UT) had an electrical "death" beam and an eightball gun where the teleporter was. In Unreal Tournament The map was retextured and the beam was replaced with a teleporter that led to the spot above the elevator which is where a redeemer spawned at and the map was renamed Deck 16 ][. In UT2K4 (the most nerfed one in the series) Deck 17 was basically Deck16 ][ except their was lava instead of sludge and their was a hallway added that connected the (one of the) flak cannon's spawn location to the ASMD Shock Rifle one. One interesting thing about the UT2k4 version is that Deck 16 can be seen closed off at the ASMD location and most of that map's geometry is present as well if you fly a camera around through it (though it would be tough to see everything since the lights are dead). The UT3 Version of it was almost the same as the 2K4 version except the ramps were closer to that of the Unreal/UT99 versions, there was sludge, and the setting was a bit different.

divVerent wrote:Could do that, especially as this map is wasting a good map name...

a map called 'deckdich' should have the 'Tischlein deck dich' theme, like, a miniman-style map with a table and lots of stuff to eat on it.

But what once has been posted, cannot be erased. Some people already have your map on their mirror, or in dlcache.

Heh, but maybe we can move the thread to some obscure place Well, anyways.. I agree about the wasted name.. Too bad. But following your logic: Nothing can be done about it...

You could return to this map later on, increasing its version number so it overrides it. It could be a patched up version of this map or a completely different map altogether. There was already released a very good version of Deck16 this week by another mapper, so you could take the opportunity to remix this one to look and play different.

PinkRobot wrote:You could return to this map later on, increasing its version number so it overrides it. It could be a patched up version of this map or a completely different map altogether. There was already released a very good version of Deck16 this week by another mapper, so you could take the opportunity to remix this one to look and play different.

Well, i am aware of this much better deck16 port So i would like to bury this one and concentrate on my adapted version minideck

http://forums.alientrap.local/viewtopic.php?t=5053

Then please allow me to use this name for a v2r1, for the before mentioned 'Tischlein Deck Dich' map

PinkRobot wrote:Then please allow me to use this name for a v2r1, for the before mentioned 'Tischlein Deck Dich' map

With me, that's totally fine Go ahead...

PinkRobot wrote:You could return to this map later on, increasing its version number so it overrides it. It could be a patched up version of this map or a completely different map altogether. There was already released a very good version of Deck16 this week by another mapper, so you could take the opportunity to remix this one to look and play different.

Where? I want to play. Does it have the slime?

tundramagi wrote:

PinkRobot wrote:You could return to this map later on, increasing its version number so it overrides it. It could be a patched up version of this map or a completely different map altogether. There was already released a very good version of Deck16 this week by another mapper, so you could take the opportunity to remix this one to look and play different.

Where? I want to play. Does it have the slime?

http://forums.alientrap.local/viewtopic.php?t=5066

HAve fun...