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Development build CRASHES (sdl works)
Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:35 am

  • Nexuiz 2.23 crashes my XP system every time I use offset mapping (1.5 did not) now the nexuiz20080227a build crashes. The SDL version works. It's noticeably faster.

    Following is a CPUZ report on my PC and my Videocard is an ATI All-in-wonder 9600.

    CPU-Z Report
    CPU-Z version 1.32.1.

    CPU(s)
    Number of CPUs 1
    Name AMD Duron
    Code Name Spitfire
    Specification AMD Duron(tm) processor
    Family / Model / Stepping 6 3 1
    Extended Family / Model 7 3
    Package Socket A
    Technology 0.18 um
    Supported Instructions Sets MMX, Extended MMX, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!
    CPU Clock Speed 800.0 MHz
    Clock multiplier x 8.0
    Front Side Bus Frequency 100.0 MHz
    Bus Speed 200.0 MHz
    L1 Data Cache 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
    L1 Instruction Cache 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
    L2 Cache 64 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
    L2 Speed 800.0 MHz (Full)
    L2 Location On Chip
    L2 Data Prefetch Logic no
    L2 Bus Width 64 bits

    Mainboard and chipset
    Motherboard manufacturer MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD
    Motherboard model MS-6738,
    BIOS vendor Phoenix Technologies, LTD
    BIOS revision 6.00 PG
    BIOS release date 04/18/2003
    Chipset VIA P4M266/KM266 (VT8375) rev. 00
    Southbridge VIA VT8235 rev. 00
    Sensor chip Winbond W83697HF
    Graphic Interface AGP
    AGP Status enabled, rev. 2.0
    AGP Data Transfer Rate 4x
    AGP Max Rate 4x
    AGP Side Band Addressing supported, enabled

    Memory
    DRAM Type DDR-SDRAM
    DRAM Size 1024 MBytes
    DRAM Frequency 133.3 MHz
    FSB:DRAM FSB + 33 MHz
    DRAM Interleave 4-way
    CAS# Latency 2.0 clocks
    RAS# to CAS# 3 clocks
    RAS# Precharge 3 clocks
    Cycle Time (TRAS) 6 clocks
    # of memory modules 2
    Module 0 DDR-SDRAM PC3200 - 512 MBytes
    Module 1 DDR-SDRAM PC3200 - 512 MBytes

    Software
    Windows version Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
    DirectX version 9.0c
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Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:23 am

  • Are you saying that the SDL version works WITH offsetmapping for you?
    Now THAT'S new
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Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:51 am

  • I am a little astonished my friend. Why are you using 2.23 at all? :shock:
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Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:56 am

  • Let me clarify:
    Nex 1.5 basically never crashed (offset or no)
    By Nex 2.3 enabling offset caused a crash
    SVN Ver 20080227a now crashes even before the transparent Logo/Lading screen appears, my pc computer only switches resolutions then crashes.
    All this is for nexuiz.exe

    nexuiz-sdl.exe works in the SVN ver for me (thank god!) but offset mapping still is an instant crash.

    Windows error details:
    AppName: nexuiz.exe AppVer: 1.0.0.0 ModName: msvcrt.dll
    ModVer: 7.0.2600.1106 Offset: 00033bce
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Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:04 pm

  • lol
    i got the same problem with the new nexuiz(2.4) and an version form 25.2^^
    the normal nexuiz.exe doesnt't work but the nexuiz-sdl works^^

    Windows error message:
    aborted application nexuiz.exe, Version 1.0.0.0,
    aborted modulel msvcrt.dll, Version 7.0.2600.2180, bug address 0x00037c7e.
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Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:13 pm

  • same here
    Dr. watson says: http://rafb.net/p/HUpGH412.html
    "It's a long story kid. You don't wanna hear it. I don't wanna tell it."
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Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:23 pm

  • Just tried Nexuiz 2.4 on Windows XP and a Radeon HD 3850 card. Both nexuiz.exe and nexuiz-sdl.exe work fine for me.
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Fri Feb 29, 2008 8:59 pm

  • We need a backtrace of the crash, to find out what is the cause. Like, Dr. Watson's full output.

    Or, you get OllyDbg, set it as primary debugger, click "Debug" when it crashed, and post a screenshot of the maximized OllyDbg window after the crash. It should also contain all the useful info.
    1. Open Notepad
    2. Paste: ÿþMSMSMS
    3. Save
    4. Open the file in Notepad again

    You can vary the number of "MS", so you can clearly see it's MS which is causing it.
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Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:02 pm

  • ok..
    i downloaded OllyDbg
    started it.. where/how can i set it as primary debugger?

    what ive already done is file- open- nexuiz.exe - then the window get filled with a lot of text xD
    but i dont know what to do with that^^

    so pls say me what to do exactly..
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Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:44 pm

  • No, you don't open nexuiz.exe in OllyDbg. Somewhere in OllyDbg's options menu, you can set it as debugger (IIRC it was something with JIT). Then it will show up automatically when something crashes (you can actually close OllyDbg then), instead of the usual Windows crash dialog.
    1. Open Notepad
    2. Paste: ÿþMSMSMS
    3. Save
    4. Open the file in Notepad again

    You can vary the number of "MS", so you can clearly see it's MS which is causing it.
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Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:51 pm

  • oook i see
    ok got it

    This line is marked: 77C17C7E 8A07 MOV AL,BYTE PTR DS:[EDI]

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Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:43 am
Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:46 am

  • Try this preliminary fix: http://forums.alientrap.local/viewtopic.php?t=2824

    Does that one's nexuiz.exe not crash any more?

    *edit - esteel* exchanged link with forum topic
    1. Open Notepad
    2. Paste: ÿþMSMSMS
    3. Save
    4. Open the file in Notepad again

    You can vary the number of "MS", so you can clearly see it's MS which is causing it.
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Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:18 pm

  • yes now it works!

    thx
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Sat Mar 01, 2008 1:06 pm

  • It would be good to know if those crashes only show up on boxes with ATi cards (iirc only ATi-on-XP-users reported crashes here) or if it would be useful for Nvidia users as well.

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Sat Mar 01, 2008 1:13 pm

  • could be true (i got an ATI card too^^)
    but i dont know why xD
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Sat Mar 01, 2008 1:35 pm

  • As I know the cause, I rather think it has to do with the installed version of msvcrt.dll. Does any of the "crashers" use SP2?
    1. Open Notepad
    2. Paste: ÿþMSMSMS
    3. Save
    4. Open the file in Notepad again

    You can vary the number of "MS", so you can clearly see it's MS which is causing it.
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Sat Mar 01, 2008 1:43 pm

  • yes i use windows XP 2002 SP2
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  • Okay, I asked because LordHavoc suspected it may be just happening on SP1. So that's ruled out now.
    1. Open Notepad
    2. Paste: ÿþMSMSMS
    3. Save
    4. Open the file in Notepad again

    You can vary the number of "MS", so you can clearly see it's MS which is causing it.
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Sat Mar 01, 2008 3:20 pm

  • My nexuiz 2.4 crashes too. I tried the hotfix, which doesnt change anything there. SDL works.

    Win2000 (SP4)
    Radeon9800pro (using ATI Catalsyst Control Center Version 1.2.2217.17271)

    I dont have an error log with the standard nexuiz.exe!
    Here is the Dr.Watson log I get with the hotfix

    Anwendungsausnahme aufgetreten:
    Anwendung: (pid=928)
    Wann: 01.03.2008 @ 16:14:05.984
    Ausnahmenummer: c0000005 (Zugriffsverletzung)

    *----> Systeminformationen <----*
    Prozessoranzahl: 1
    Prozessortyp: x86 Family 6 Model 10 Stepping 0
    Windows 2000-Version: 5.0
    Aktuelles Build: 2195
    Service Pack: 4
    Aktueller Typ: Uniprocessor Free

    *----> Taskliste <----*
    0 Idle.exe
    8 System.exe
    212 SMSS.exe
    236 CSRSS.exe
    260 WINLOGON.exe
    288 SERVICES.exe
    300 LSASS.exe
    412 ati2evxx.exe
    500 svchost.exe
    528 spoolsv.exe
    580 aswUpdSv.exe
    608 ashServ.exe
    632 svchost.exe
    672 hidserv.exe
    692 InCDsrv.exe
    728 PnkBstrA.exe
    780 regsvc.exe
    792 mstask.exe
    988 stisvc.exe
    1016 WinMgmt.exe
    1040 svchost.exe
    1064 svchost.exe
    1160 ashMaiSv.exe
    1180 ashWebSv.exe
    1428 ati2evxx.exe
    1096 explorer.exe
    1516 AsusProb.exe
    1280 CLI.exe
    1528 NvMixerTray.exe
    1544 jusched.exe
    1548 ashDisp.exe
    1560 internat.exe
    1580 daemon.exe
    1600 wuauclt.exe
    1800 CLI.exe
    1812 CLI.exe
    1644 xchat.exe
    1332 jucheck.exe
    720 firefox.exe
    928 nexuiz.exe
    1164 DRWTSN32.exe
    0 _Total.exe

    (00400000 - 0303B000)
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    Statusabbild für Threadkennung 0x5c0

    eax=00000570 ebx=0000195c ecx=00000000 edx=00000000 esi=0430d040 edi=00001838
    eip=0405d7ed esp=0022edcc ebp=042c4a40 iopl=0 nv up ei pl nz na pe nc
    cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=0038 gs=0000 efl=00000202


    Funktion: <nosymbols>
    0405d7d5 894808 mov [eax+0x8],ecx ds:00a8a456=00000000
    0405d7d8 894804 mov [eax+0x4],ecx ds:00a8a456=00000000
    0405d7db 8908 mov [eax],ecx ds:00000570=????????
    0405d7dd 5b pop ebx
    0405d7de c20c00 ret 0xc
    0405d7e1 57 push edi
    0405d7e2 53 push ebx
    0405d7e3 8bd5 mov edx,ebp
    0405d7e5 8bce mov ecx,esi
    0405d7e7 ff96d0ba0000 call dword ptr [esi+0xbad0] ds:04318b10=03f27830
    FEHLER ->0405d7ed 8b00 mov eax,[eax] ds:00000570=????????
    0405d7ef 8b96c8860300 mov edx,[esi+0x386c8] ds:04345708=00ff0000
    0405d7f5 8b8eb8860300 mov ecx,[esi+0x386b8] ds:043456f8=00000010
    0405d7fb 23d0 and edx,eax
    0405d7fd d3ea shr edx,cl
    0405d7ff 85d2 test edx,edx
    0405d801 89542418 mov [esp+0x18],edx ss:00cb8cb3=00000000
    0405d805 db442418 fild dword ptr [esp+0x18] ss:00cb8cb3=00000000
    0405d809 7d06 jge atiPPHSN+0x1f8e01 (0406b011)
    0405d80b d805bc812404 fadd dword ptr [042481bc] ds:042481bc=4f800000
    0405d811 8b54241c mov edx,[esp+0x1c] ss:00cb8cb3=00000000
    0405d815 d91a fstp dword ptr [edx] ds:00000000=????????

    *----> Stack Back Trace <----*

    FramePtr ReturnAd Param#1 Param#2 Param#3 Param#4 Function Name
    042C4A40 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 !atiPPHSN

    *----> Raw Stack Dump <----*
    0022edcc 40 d0 30 04 40 d0 30 04 - 3c ee 22 00 70 05 00 00 @.0.@.0.<.".p...
    0022eddc 8e aa fe 03 5c 19 00 00 - 38 18 00 00 f0 ed 22 00 ....\...8.....".
    0022edec 7c ee 22 00 7c ee 22 00 - 40 d0 30 04 40 d0 30 04 |.".|.".@.0.@.0.
    0022edfc 7c ee 22 00 24 ca 05 04 - 7c ee 22 00 b0 ee 22 00 |.".$...|."...".
    0022ee0c 3c ee 22 00 a4 1a 00 00 - cc 84 31 04 40 d0 30 04 <.".......1.@.0.
    0022ee1c 5c 19 00 00 b0 ee 22 00 - 7c ee 22 00 bc 84 31 04 \.....".|."...1.
    0022ee2c 1b a2 c1 00 40 4a 2c 04 - 00 00 00 00 78 bb 30 04 ....@J,.....x.0.
    0022ee3c 50 44 46 0e ff ff ff ff - 48 44 45 0e 00 00 00 00 PDF.....HDE.....
    0022ee4c 19 e3 05 04 05 00 00 00 - 04 00 00 00 20 86 31 04 ............ .1.
    0022ee5c 40 d0 30 04 cc 84 31 04 - 5c 19 00 00 a4 1a 00 00 @.0...1.\.......
    0022ee6c f0 2f 48 0e 00 00 00 00 - 64 ee 22 00 00 02 00 00 ./H.....d.".....
    0022ee7c 5c 19 00 00 38 18 00 00 - e0 d1 45 17 ff ff 7f 3f \...8.....E....?
    0022ee8c 00 00 23 00 00 00 7f 43 - 00 00 7f 43 00 00 7f 43 ..#....C...C...C
    0022ee9c 00 00 7f 43 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ...C............
    0022eeac 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    0022eebc 00 00 00 00 a0 06 01 40 - 10 f2 22 00 40 40 2c 04 .......@..".@@,.
    0022eecc 64 7e 8b 77 78 16 88 77 - 00 00 2c 04 01 00 00 00 d~.wx..w..,.....
    0022eedc f8 7a 1e 04 78 e8 2c 04 - 64 01 2c 04 00 00 2c 04 .z..x.,.d.,...,.
    0022eeec 41 00 00 00 fd 41 80 3f - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 A....A.?........
    0022eefc 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

    Statusabbild für Threadkennung 0x3b0

    eax=77553ab1 ebx=00000000 ecx=00000000 edx=00000000 esi=77888398 edi=0eeeff90
    eip=778883a3 esp=0eeeff7c ebp=0eeeff98 iopl=0 nv up ei pl nz na po nc
    cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=0038 gs=0000 efl=00000206


    Funktion: NtDelayExecution
    77888398 b832000000 mov eax,0x32
    7788839d 8d542404 lea edx,[esp+0x4] ss:0f979e63=????????
    778883a1 cd2e int 2e
    778883a3 c20800 ret 0x8
    778883a6 8bff mov edi,edi

    *----> Stack Back Trace <----*

    FramePtr ReturnAd Param#1 Param#2 Param#3 Param#4 Function Name
    0EEEFF98 77553AC8 00000BB8 00000000 00000000 00000000 ntdll!NtDelayExecution
    00000001 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 winmm!joyReleaseCapture

    *----> Raw Stack Dump <----*
    0eeeff7c 01 a3 e9 77 00 00 00 00 - 90 ff ee 0e 00 00 00 00 ...w............
    0eeeff8c 00 00 00 00 80 3c 36 fe - ff ff ff ff 01 00 00 00 .....<6.........
    0eeeff9c c8 3a 55 77 b8 0b 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 .:Uw............
    0eeeffac 00 00 00 00 ec ff ee 0e - 00 00 00 00 bc b3 e7 77 ...............w
    0eeeffbc 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    0eeeffcc 00 d0 fd 7f 00 00 00 00 - c0 ff ee 0e 00 00 00 00 ................
    0eeeffdc ff ff ff ff 60 21 ec 77 - 08 2b e7 77 00 00 00 00 ....`!.w.+.w....
    0eeeffec 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - b1 3a 55 77 00 00 00 00 .........:Uw....
    0eeefffc 00 00 00 00 4d 5a 90 00 - 03 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 ....MZ..........
    0eef000c ff ff 00 00 b8 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 ............@...
    0eef001c 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    0eef002c 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    0eef003c d0 00 00 00 0e 1f ba 0e - 00 b4 09 cd 21 b8 01 4c ............!..L
    0eef004c cd 21 54 68 69 73 20 70 - 72 6f 67 72 61 6d 20 63 .!This program c
    0eef005c 61 6e 6e 6f 74 20 62 65 - 20 72 75 6e 20 69 6e 20 annot be run in
    0eef006c 44 4f 53 20 6d 6f 64 65 - 2e 0d 0d 0a 24 00 00 00 DOS mode....$...
    0eef007c 00 00 00 00 c5 88 57 db - 81 e9 39 88 81 e9 39 88 ......W...9...9.
    0eef008c 81 e9 39 88 02 f5 37 88 - 80 e9 39 88 81 e9 38 88 ..9...7...9...8.
    0eef009c 90 e9 39 88 e3 f6 2a 88 - 83 e9 39 88 69 f6 33 88 ..9...*...9.i.3.
    0eef00ac b2 e9 39 88 69 f6 3d 88 - 85 e9 39 88 52 69 63 68 ..9.i.=...9.Rich
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Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:32 pm

  • That's inside the ATI driver. Can't fix that...
    1. Open Notepad
    2. Paste: ÿþMSMSMS
    3. Save
    4. Open the file in Notepad again

    You can vary the number of "MS", so you can clearly see it's MS which is causing it.
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Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:28 pm

  • I use SP2 and a Ati, all works very well :P
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Sun Mar 02, 2008 2:23 am

  • divVerent wrote:Try this preliminary fix: http://forums.alientrap.local/viewtopic.php?t=2824

    Does that one's nexuiz.exe not crash any more?


    True, working fine now here.
    Just in case someone needs that info: winXP SP2 Ati Radeon 9000M
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